Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-06 Thread private musings
Hi all, I thought I'd note for those interested in the latest from the community side of the 'controversial content' discussions - the Commons 'Sexual Content' proposal has just gone into a polling stage for the second time; http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Sexual_content#Second_pol

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-06 Thread Huib Laurens
Dutch Wikipedia has multible members that aren't admins 2010/12/6, John Vandenberg : > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Huib Laurens wrote: >> Sinds its not only English Wikipedia but foundation wide I can say we have >> people becomming Arbcom without being a Admin.. We had CheckUsers without >>

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 December 2010 09:02, private musings wrote: > I thought I'd note for those interested in the latest from the > community side of the 'controversial content' discussions - the > Commons 'Sexual Content' proposal has just gone into a polling stage > for the second time; > http://commons.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-06 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 17:41, David Gerard wrote: > On 6 December 2010 09:02, private musings wrote: >> I thought I'd note for those interested in the latest from the >> community side of the 'controversial content' discussions - the >> Commons 'Sexual Content' proposal has just gone into a polli

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-06 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:02 AM, private musings wrote: > Hi all, > > I thought I'd note for those interested in the latest from the > community side of the 'controversial content' discussions - the > Commons 'Sexual Content' proposal has just gone into a polling stage > for the second time; > > ht

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-06 Thread Mariano Cecowski
I'm sorry we are putting more energy into what should be banned from commons instead of searching for mechanisms to protect those readers who would prefer to stay away from such content. I mean, I understand the problem with paedophilia, and why it needs to be kept outside wikimedia projects, b

[Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread Adam Cuerden
It concerns me greatly that Commons seems unable to deal with a user who, at various times, has attacked a Jew with anti-semitic cartoons, has thrown racist abuse at a German theen harassed that user - and still has numbers of admins willing to unblock him, simply because he does supposedly good wo

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Adam, What a timely post. What an opportunity to test the Santa Claus hierarchical structure. I do feel your pain, but given my extensive experience of bring up all sorts of shenanigans to the attention of this list and meeting the most deafening silence, I'm taking bets on what kind of respon

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > Adam, > > What a timely post. What an opportunity to test the Santa Claus > hierarchical structure. > (...) > If you do succeed in bringing any change to Commons through this > request of yours, I will follow with a similar one of my

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread M. Williamson
No, br.wikipedia.org is the Breton Wikipedia. I think Virgilio is referring to pt.wp as the Brazilian Wikipedia because it is or he perceives it to be dominated by Brazilians. -m. 2010/12/6 Pedro Sanchez : > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado > wrote: >> Adam, >> >> What a t

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Pedro, Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you or anybody. I thought people knew. It's the Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia. Unfortunately, despite all most pious statements to the contrary, the uncontroversial truth is that a small group of 16 editors decided that all titles of articles and titles

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread Muhammad Yahia
Wouldn't an RFC on meta be the appropriate channel to voice both issues? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RFC On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > Pedro, > > Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you or anybody. I thought people > knew. It's the Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread David Gerard
On 7 December 2010 01:00, Muhammad Yahia wrote: > Wouldn't an RFC on meta be the appropriate channel to voice both issues? This is Virgilio's pet around-and-around topic on this list. - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I had a rather different impression of events around Pieter. I remember several times where he got admins on his case because he nominated copyvios for deletion which said admins had uploaded to Commons. I'm also not sure whether a sarcastic reference to German efficiency in a talk page discuss

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-06 Thread Andreas Kolbe
> And thanks for the prod... we've been slow to put together > the working > group that I mentioned in my last message, but it is still > happening. > In the meantime comments on the recommendations are > certainly welcome. > More soon, I hope! Yes please. Greg has predicted that this study and i

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread M. Williamson
Also from your talk page: A partir de 1 de janeiro de 2009, as normas do Acordo Ortográfico de 1990 passaram a ser usadas de forma preferencial na Wikipédia de língua portuguesa, passando a ser redigidas em conformidade todas as "páginas oficiais" da Wikipédia (menus, políticas, recomendações, res

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-06 Thread Andreas Kolbe
> From: private musings > Hi all, > > I thought I'd note for those interested in the latest from > the > community side of the 'controversial content' discussions - > the > Commons 'Sexual Content' proposal has just gone into a > polling stage > for the second time; > > http://commons.wikimedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
You see, there already someone with another POV on the matter of that user. I think this is the "correct" POV. Watch and weep: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wm2_YaRNbU M., We all have perceptions. It's inherent to a the fact that we are all human beings. My perception is based on the facts th

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-06 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM, M. Williamson wrote: >.. > As far as I can tell, this decision was reached by consensus, and the > Acordo Ortográfico of 1990 is technically official in Portugal, > although it may not yet be used in schools. Thanks Mark. for content, here is the Wikipedia articl

[Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-06 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
M., And your point is? My statement: >the uncontroversial truth > is that a small group of 16 editors decided that all titles of > articles and titles and content of Wikipedia pages would be > "translated" into Brazilian Portuguese starting January 1, 2009. > Since that time there is no lon

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-06 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > M., > > And your point is? > > My statement: > >  > ... gramatical mistakes. > > See any mistakes or anything wrong in that statement? gramatical is spelled wrong. and 'mistakes' is only true if you consider the Portuguese Language

[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 6, Issu e 49 – 6 December 2010

2010-12-06 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: ArbCom tally pending; Pediapress renderer; fundraiser update; unreferenced BLP drive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-12-06/News_and_notes In the news: Amazon "shopping-enabling" Wikipedia; Al Jazeera interview; be like Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.or

[Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-06 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
John, Not a bad article. I'm not a linguist, so I can't do a knowledgeable evaluation, but again from the little that I know about he subject it looks pretty good. I only stumbled on "The adoption of the new orthography will cause changes in the spelling of about 1.6% of the words in the Eur

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-06 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > > Before signing off, and before I forget, let me > ask another trivial question. It has been a long, > long time since you have opened a grammar of any > language, hasn't it? That's an easy guess, > considering what a grammar is > (

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-06 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
John, I should have guessed. You sound like a good humored pal. I bet that if we would get together for a good meal and plenty of wine or beer, by the end of the evening we would agree about everything. Shame you're so far away, but you do honor the reputation of your mates. That picture on yo

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-06 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Nathan, So what? If he does, he didn't show it as far as Portuguese is concerned. Any six year old child has a basic grasp of Portuguese grammar (spelled that right...) even before they enter elementary school. Basic grasp of any other 16 languages is not required. :-) I don't think Mark has a

[Foundation-l] some worries about fundraiser and editor appeals boycotting it

2010-12-06 Thread Ernesto García
Seeing http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserStatistics  I'm quite worried about the onlook.. choosing "year to date" tab shows a definite   deacceleration (and we still need about 4x the current cumulative amount). Therefore I'm particularly concerned about an ongoing campaign on