Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-05-02 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Saturday 02 May 2009 02:58:05 Anthony написа: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > Дана Friday 01 May 2009 19:06:55 Gregory Kohs написа: > > > additional jet fuel and hotel consumption (laundered sheets, poor > > > > recycling > > > > > standards, etc.) is something t

[Foundation-l] Fwd: WMF Job Posting - Project Manager

2009-05-02 Thread Sue Gardner
FYI: please feel free to share this posting widely. It went up yesterday on the Wikimedia Foundation website. -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Phelps Date: 2009/5/1 Subject: WMF Job Posting - Project Manager To: Sue Gardner http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Pr

[Foundation-l] Fwd: WMF Job Posting - Research Analyst

2009-05-02 Thread Sue Gardner
FYI -- please feel free to share this posting widely. It went up yesterday on the Wikimedia Foundation website. -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Phelps Date: 2009/5/1 Subject: WMF Job Posting - Research Analyst To: Sue Gardner http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_opening

[Foundation-l] Fwd: WMF Job Posting - Facilitator

2009-05-02 Thread Sue Gardner
FYI -- please feel free to share this posting widely. It was posted on the Wikimedia Foundation website yesterday. Thanks, Sue -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Phelps Date: 2009/5/1 Subject: WMF Job Posting - Facilitator To: Sue Gardner http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/J

[Foundation-l] video background in sign language? do we have a partnership?

2009-05-02 Thread THURNER rupert
hi, does anybody have / know about a partnership for sign language, either for promotianal videos, or "standard" videos for wikimedia commons? one of the few companies doing this i know is http://www.dgs-filme.de/GWHomepage/, they sometimes also work for free, especially for children's sites. rup

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: WMF Job Posting - Research Analyst

2009-05-02 Thread Milos Rancic
Finally :) I think that this position is more than necessary and that it should be a permanent one. BTW, I think that it would be good to include in job descriptions a need for creation and active managing of a (relevant) volunteer group. Such work is (explicitly or implicitly) a part of some posi

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-05-02 Thread Chad
2009/5/2 Nikola Smolenski : > Дана Saturday 02 May 2009 02:58:05 Anthony написа: >> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> > Дана Friday 01 May 2009 19:06:55 Gregory Kohs написа: >> > > additional jet fuel and hotel consumption (laundered sheets, poor >> > >> > recycling >> > >

[Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Yoni Weiden
The Hebrew Wikipedia community decided that Southpark episode named "Chef Aid" is not worthy of an article, not because of it's content, but because it is an unimportant episode. I now wonder. This episode is available so far in the following wiki Languages: English, French, Hungarian and Russian.

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Yoni Weiden
Might I add, [[en:Simpsons_Roasting_on_an_Open_Fire]], which exists in 16 languages, was deleted in the Hebrew Wikipedia. proper disclosure: I was involved in writing the above article. Yonidebest 2009/5/2 Yoni Weiden > The Hebrew Wikipedia community decided that Southpark episode named "Chef

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Amir Elisha Aharoni
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 17:17, Yoni Weiden wrote: > Here we have an episode available in 4 languages (and will probably we > available in more - just a matter of time), but in the Hebrew language it > will never we available. Not never. People come and go, people change their opinions. That said,

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Yoni Weiden wrote: > The Hebrew Wikipedia community decided that Southpark episode named "Chef > Aid" is not worthy of an article, not because of it's content, but because > it is an unimportant episode. In spanish wikipedia we soemtimes delete articles found in

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Sue Gardner
Hi folks, I wrote here earlier about the process we're imagining for this project; I'm going to take a minute now to write about the substance of the work. This isn't a direct response to any of the comments made here thus far, but I hope it'll indirectly speak to some of the issues you've brough

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/5/1 phoebe ayers: > >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: >> >>> 2009/5/1 Samuel Klein: >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/4/30 Samuel Klein: > >> I'd like to see W

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
geni wrote: > 2009/5/1 phoebe ayers : > >> Besides, this is a (slightly long) generation, which makes a useful >> human-scaled measure to think in. I really want my kids, at some >> point, to be able to say in exasperation, "Mom, this isn't *your* >> Wikipedia anymore!" Or better yet: "Grandma,

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Samuel Klein
Stu writes: > - We can't do them all at the same time -- even with all our > success we have limited money and volunteer energy. A strategic > plan can help provide focus and prioritization. > - The approach the Board and Sue have laid out -- widespread > involvement from our entire community -- i

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
Gerard Meijssen wrote: > As the discussions about all these plans is going to be in English, it will > be very much "others" telling communities how to behave, how to move > forward. The notion that policies and guidelines are good is offset by > people who found themselves not or no longer welcome

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Yoni Weiden
The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all Wikipedias? I think it is "unfair" that I can read about Simpsons episodes in the English Wikipedia, while those how speak Hebrew cannot. 2009/5/2 Pedro Sanchez > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Yoni Weiden wrote: > > > The Hebre

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Amir Elisha Aharoni
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 21:09, Yoni Weiden wrote: > The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all > Wikipedias? I do think that there should be one set of standards for all languages. But it may be hard to enforce it on an existing community. WMF can try and enforce copyright p

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread geni
2009/5/2 Sue Gardner : > Hi folks, > > I wrote here earlier about the process we're imagining for this > project; I'm going to take a minute now to write about the substance > of the work. This isn't a direct response to any of the comments made > here thus far, but I hope it'll indirectly speak t

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread geni
2009/5/2 Ray Saintonge : >> If wikipedia like collections of information are still being written >> by human beings in a couple of decades I will be rather surprised. >> We've already to a large extent reached the point where the quickest >> way to fill in info boxes would be computers making sugge

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/5/2 geni : > 2009/5/2 Sue Gardner : >> Hi folks, >> >> I wrote here earlier about the process we're imagining for this >> project; I'm going to take a minute now to write about the substance >> of the work.  This isn't a direct response to any of the comments made >> here thus far, but I hope

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: WMF Job Posting - Research Analyst

2009-05-02 Thread phoebe ayers
Right. Milos' point is a good one, and should be written up carefully in all of the job descriptions for this particular project -- and probably all of the job descriptions in general for the Foundation. "Must be willing" doesn't seem quite strong enough for making the point that this position has

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Ting Chen
Amir Elisha Aharoni wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 21:09, Yoni Weiden wrote: > >> The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all >> Wikipedias? >> > > I do think that there should be one set of standards for all > languages. But it may be hard to enforce it on an existi

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread David Goodman
On a practical note, we have sufficient difficulty in getting consensus on policies in individual encyclopedias! David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Ting Chen wrote: > Amir Elisha Aharoni wrote: >> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 21:0

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread geni
2009/5/2 Thomas Dalton : > What would they spend it on? Talk is cheap, after all! Having > conversations is easy, having focused conversations that actually > reach useful conclusions is a little harder, but it isn't more > expensive. Data gathering, test setups whatever. If there isn't a budget t

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Alex
Yoni Weiden wrote: > The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all > Wikipedias? I think it is "unfair" that I can read about Simpsons episodes > in the English Wikipedia, while those how speak Hebrew cannot. > Such a policy would have had to be decided several years ago. At t

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/5/2 geni : > 2009/5/2 Thomas Dalton : >> What would they spend it on? Talk is cheap, after all! Having >> conversations is easy, having focused conversations that actually >> reach useful conclusions is a little harder, but it isn't more >> expensive. > > Data gathering, test setups whatever.

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
geni wrote: > 2009/5/2 Ray Saintonge: > >>> If wikipedia like collections of information are still being written >>> by human beings in a couple of decades I will be rather surprised. >>> We've already to a large extent reached the point where the quickest >>> way to fill in info boxes would be

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Robert Rohde
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Yoni Weiden wrote: > The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all > Wikipedias? I think it is "unfair" that I can read about Simpsons episodes > in the English Wikipedia, while those how speak Hebrew cannot. The German Wikipedia has always had

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Yoni Weiden wrote: > > The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all > > Wikipedias? I think it is "unfair" that I can read about Simpsons > episodes > > in the English Wikipedia, while tho

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Sue Gardner wrote: > Hi folks, > > I wrote here earlier about the process we're imagining for this > project; I'm going to take a minute now to write about the substance > of the work. This isn't a direct response to any of the comments made > here thus far, but I hope it'll indirectly speak to so

[Foundation-l] Green stuff.

2009-05-02 Thread Domas Mituzas
Hi! > The purpose of my question was to examine the carbon impact on our > global > environment by holding this meeting in Berlin Ha! Dude, you're coming to organization that runs 100kW datacenter (when other sites of similar popularity go for 10-100MW facilities), and talking about carbon

Re: [Foundation-l] More on Wikimedia strategic planning

2009-05-02 Thread Samuel Klein
I could use a revision history and list of related discussions for this conversation. [perhaps a mailing list isn't the best or highest-visibility venue, considering the audience] Where else is this conversation taking place? Are past discussions of high-priority questions relevant? On Sat, May