Lars Aronsson wrote:
> Finn Rindahl wrote
>> If there was more active admins, we could have done our job
>> better - especially when it comes to take the necessary time to
>> communicate with the other users who need help. The only way as
>> I see it to actually get volunteers to work at Commons
> Any society considering a Great Firewall of any sort is neither
> democratic nor open, whether or not they periodically hold votes on
> exactly who should implement bad ideas. We should not in any way
> acknowledge or respect such, though we should help those who live
> there and encourage and as
Hoi,
Do people add these user boxes to their own user page ?
Thanks,
GerardM
2008/12/13 Yaroslav M. Blanter
> > Any society considering a Great Firewall of any sort is neither
> > democratic nor open, whether or not they periodically hold votes on
> > exactly who should implement bad ideas
I would recommend that Russian Wikipedia adopt a policy similar to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:USERBOXES#Content_restrictions
># Userboxes must not be inflammatory or divisive.
># Wikipedia is not an appropriate place for propaganda, advocacy, or
>recruitment of any kind, commercia
2008/12/13 Jimmy Wales :
> I would recommend that Russian Wikipedia adopt a policy similar to
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:USERBOXES#Content_restrictions
>
> ># Userboxes must not be inflammatory or divisive.
> ># Wikipedia is not an appropriate place for propaganda, advocacy, or
>
> Hoi,
> Do people add these user boxes to their own user page ?
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
Yes, that's right. Actually, we just have one fictitious user,
[[ru:User/Box]], who is permablocked, and almost all userboxes (including
the Holocost denial one) are moved to the subspace of this user.
Che
Hoi,
When no real user has this on his user page, then it is no real issue with
deleting this nonsense. When it is people actually having this on their user
page you have a real problem. Now it seems to me that it is easiest to stamp
such nonsense out.
Thanks,
GerardM
2008/12/13 Yaroslav M.
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:54 AM, geni wrote:
> 2008/12/13 Jimmy Wales :
> > I would recommend that Russian Wikipedia adopt a policy similar to
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:USERBOXES#Content_restrictions
> >
> > ># Userboxes must not be inflammatory or divisive.
> > ># Wikipedi
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:54 AM, geni wrote:
>
>> 2008/12/13 Jimmy Wales :
>> > I would recommend that Russian Wikipedia adopt a policy similar to
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:USERBOXES#Content_restrictions
>> >
>> > ># Userb
Anthony wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:54 AM, geni wrote:
>
>
>> 2008/12/13 Jimmy Wales :
>>
>>> I would recommend that Russian Wikipedia adopt a policy similar to
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:USERBOXES#Content_restrictions
>>>
>>> ># Userboxes must not be inflammato
teun spaans wrote:
> Many times it works well.
> But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss.
>
> I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct
> license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, making a bot
> come along and warn me. By pure coincidence i
> Jimbo didn't say anyone who denies the Holocaust should be blocked, as
> though Wikipedia should engage in thought-crime. He said "the sorts of
> people who deny the Holocaust are generally the sorts of people who ought to
> be blocked on sight from editing Wikipedia". High correlation, not
> c
Florence Devouard wrote:
> I can not help reflect further on the whole Virgin Killer story.
>
Why is that?
A lack of self control, or because you actually have a
deeply thought out viewpoint?
> Whilst I am very happy of the final outcome, and thank David Gerard and
> WMF for having handled
> Any society considering a Great Firewall of any sort is neither
> democratic nor open, whether or not they periodically hold votes on
> exactly who should implement bad ideas. We should not in any way
> acknowledge or respect such, though we should help those who live
> there and encourage and as
2008/12/13 Thomas Dalton :
>> Jimbo didn't say anyone who denies the Holocaust should be blocked, as
>> though Wikipedia should engage in thought-crime. He said "the sorts of
>> people who deny the Holocaust are generally the sorts of people who ought to
>> be blocked on sight from editing Wikipe
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> Frankly, as a person who thinks nothing of enjoying a sauna
> with members of the other gender of any age, I think you are
> overstating it considerably to say *all* of us think the image is
> even mildly controversial, except for th
Anthony wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>> wrote:
>>
>
>
>> Frankly, as a person who thinks nothing of enjoying a sauna
>> with members of the other gender of any age, I think you are
>> overstating it considerably to say *all* of us think the image is
>>
Pharos wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
>> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
>>> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
>>> "pa
> Hoi,
> When no real user has this on his user page, then it is no real issue with
> deleting this nonsense. When it is people actually having this on their
> user
> page you have a real problem. Now it seems to me that it is easiest to
> stamp
> such nonsense out.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
Wel
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Lars Aronsson wrote:
>> Finn Rindahl wrote
>>> If there was more active admins, we could have done our job
>>> better - especially when it comes to take the necessary time to
>>> communicate with the other users who need help. The only way a
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Platonides wrote:
> teun spaans wrote:
> > Many times it works well.
> > But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss.
> >
> > I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct
> > license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the licens
the proper list would be mediawiki-l?
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 00:21, Angela wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:58 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Angela wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> http://trac.wikia-code.com/browser/wikia/b
Hoi,
What good are rules if subterfuge prevents them from being applied?
Thanks,
GerardM
2008/12/13 Yaroslav M. Blanter
> > Hoi,
> > When no real user has this on his user page, then it is no real issue
> with
> > deleting this nonsense. When it is people actually having this on their
> >
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> Any society considering a Great Firewall of any sort is neither
>> democratic nor open, whether or not they periodically hold votes on
>> exactly who should implement bad ideas. We should not in any way
>> acknowledge or respect such, though
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Todd Allen wrote:
> Yes, all states have laws. It is the content of those laws which
> determines whether or not the state is a free and open society. One
> may have a free and open society that is not an anarchy.
>
> Prior-restraint censorship, or blocking people
> Yes, all states have laws. It is the content of those laws which
> determines whether or not the state is a free and open society. One
> may have a free and open society that is not an anarchy.
If the country has free and fair elections for its leaders then it is
a democracy. A law made by democ
> Hoi,
> What good are rules if subterfuge prevents them from being applied?
> Thanks,
> GerardM
Well, it is also a part of the rules.
Cheers
Yaroslav
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Birgitte SB wrote:
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Florence Devouard wrote:
>
>> From: Florence Devouard
>> Subject: [Foundation-l] and what if...
>> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 4:52 AM
>> I can not help reflect further on the whole Virgin Killer
>> sto
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> Florence Devouard wrote:
>> I can not help reflect further on the whole Virgin Killer story.
>>
>
> Why is that?
>
> A lack of self control, or because you actually have a
> deeply thought out viewpoint?
Yeah.
Tomorrow, I am talking in a conference. The topic
> Hmmm, at best, a very simplified scenario planning version for the
> budget, with short time "best case" and "worse case". Usually, scenario
> planning is rather on the 5-10 years scale.
Things move far too fast in our world to plan much on that kind of
timescale. For example, current models sug
2008/12/13 Florence Devouard :
> My answer tomorrow could be
> "Wikipedia was probably the least planned project ever; it currently has
> reached the level of a non-profit start-up, with a planning ability of
> about 1 year".
Scenario planning longer than that would start making some seriously
unw
on 12/13/08 6:52 PM, Florence Devouard at anthe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> "Professionals could probably help us grow up in certain areas, but they
> would have to cope with all the no-life standing on our mailing lists".
Florence,
"Professionals", or, as they are also referred to, "experts" don't
2008/12/14 Marc Riddell :
> on 12/13/08 6:52 PM, Florence Devouard at anthe...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> "Professionals could probably help us grow up in certain areas, but they
>> would have to cope with all the no-life standing on our mailing lists".
>
>
> Florence,
>
> "Professionals", or, as they a
Marc Riddell wrote:
> on 12/13/08 6:52 PM, Florence Devouard at anthe...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> "Professionals could probably help us grow up in certain areas, but they
>> would have to cope with all the no-life standing on our mailing lists".
>
>
> Florence,
>
> "Professionals", or, as they ar
> True, true.
> But note that this fear seems to be less pregnant (hmm, maybe not the
> right word, pregnent ?) in WMF, which now has hired "expert" or use some
> as consultants.
The WMF uses experts for administrative stuff, that is very different
to using them directly in the creation of content
Hoi,
The creation of content is not something the WMF organisation deals with. It
has started to employ experts in order to make our environment more usable.
As part of the Stanton project, a user interface designer will be included.
This is likely to improve the usability of MediaWiki a lot. By in
Florence Devouard wrote:
> Birgitte SB wrote:
>
>> I am strongly against collaborating with Westernish governments to help make
>> their censorship more effective. I personally don't think we should help
>> anyone make their censorship more effective. But if we are to decide we
>> would rath
Hey folks,
Here is the RTTB for October. November will follow soon :-)
Enjoy!
Sue
Report to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
Covering: October 2008
Prepared by:Sue Gardner, Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation
Prepared for: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
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