Automated welcome message are tricky on the English Wikipedia, because it's
a tricky place to figure out why someone is editing, and how to communicate
with them. A large number of contributors with new accounts either do not
have a native level of English, are editing just because they can, are
e
I'm gonna hafta (sic) work on my handwriting. It's atrocious. ;) Have to
good night!
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Steven Walling wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Michael Snow >wrote:
>
> > Wow, handwritten? I didn't know MediaWiki was going to skip straight past
> > WYSIWYG to OCR.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Michael Snow wrote:
> Wow, handwritten? I didn't know MediaWiki was going to skip straight past
> WYSIWYG to OCR. Is it time to start weeding out editors with bad penmanship?
>
Wikipedians: they cut you no slack whatsoever for imprecise adjectives,
even if it's 9:
On 3/22/2012 9:00 PM, Steven Walling wrote:
On Mar 22, 2012 8:46 PM, "Cynthia Ashley-Nelson"
wrote:
In Twinkle, we can add a custom Welcome message. Is it possible to create a
customized Welcome template that allows the user to insert a personalized
message to the Twinkle interface? Or even make
On Mar 22, 2012 8:46 PM, "Cynthia Ashley-Nelson"
wrote:
>
> In Twinkle, we can add a custom Welcome message. Is it possible to create
a
> customized Welcome template that allows the user to insert a personalized
> message to the Twinkle interface? Or even make changes to the existing
> templates t
In Twinkle, we can add a custom Welcome message. Is it possible to create a
customized Welcome template that allows the user to insert a personalized
message to the Twinkle interface? Or even make changes to the existing
templates that allows users to insert a personal message prior to placing
on t
WereSpielChequers wrote:
>... our steadily increasing proportion of spammers
Where are you seeing that? I've been monitoring COIBot report
contribution numbers and it seems about constant over the years to me.
> and the large increase in our proportion of vandals since 2005
The proportion
> Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: User talk templates (Ray Saintonge)
> > 2. Re: User talk templates (Fae)
> > 3. Re: User talk templates (Tim Starling)
> > 4. Re: User talk templates (En Pine)
> > 5. Re: User talk templates (David Gerard)
> &g
talk templates (David Gerard)
> 6. Re: User talk templates (En Pine)
> 7. Re: User talk templates (David Gerard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 02:53:47 -0700
> From: Ray Saintonge
> To
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:02, Fae wrote:
> It's been discussed on-wiki before and firmly rejected (too lazy to
> dig it out).
In the spirit of co-operation, I shall dig for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Use_a_bot_to_welcome_new_users
Bod
These are both great questions Pine.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:37 AM, En Pine wrote:
> First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to
> the user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for
> Commons, Simple, and other projects? Currently we requi
Very good ideas Nathan. FWIW, I've only been reading this list for about a
year and a half or so. I present a lot of welcome messages, but always
check the user's editing history first, to ascertain which one would be
appropriate. Then, if they are continuing to edit a month later, I try to
followu
Let's separate the two elements of a "welcome message" - one is an actual
welcome, a personal exchange that should be provided by a human being. The
other is the provision of useful information, links to policies and
guidelines and the sort of "how-to" information that anyone should have
easy acces
I've read the responses over the past 24 hours and have followed the
suggestions made by Pine. I appreciate her proactive manner with addressing
issues and lack that she sees. While some may not agree with the automatic
welcome template idea, at least she's actively working toward and
presenting so
On 22 March 2012 10:56, En Pine wrote:
> Why would you not want to provide people guidance before they've made their
> first edit, and why not provide them some encouragement to edit in a welcome
> message?
Because in practice, new editors don't read them - they think the
messages are just bo
>> On 03/22/12 1:37 AM, En Pine wrote:
>> First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to
>> the user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for
>> Commons, Simple, and other projects? Currently we require a human to do
>> this, which means that
On 22 March 2012 10:47, En Pine wrote:
> Your tone comes across as harsh.
I believe this is actually an objection to the content of my post
rather than its formatting.
> Do you have any positive suggestions about how to improve editor retention?
This is evidence you haven't been reading com
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:41:18 +
> From: David Gerard
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates
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> On 22 March 2012 08:37, En Pine w
On 22/03/12 19:37, En Pine wrote:
> I have two suggestions about templates. I don’t know if Steven’s
> the right person to ask about these particular ideas so I’m sending
> this email to him and CCing it to Foundation-l.
>
> First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome
> message
It's been discussed on-wiki before and firmly rejected (too lazy to
dig it out). There's no way around needing a human pair of eyes to
look at what a new user is up to and judge how best to welcome them to
Wikipedia editing or advise them on problematic contributions.
Twinkle has a well thought ou
On 03/22/12 1:37 AM, En Pine wrote:
First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to the
user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for
Commons, Simple, and other projects? Currently we require a human to do this,
which means that lots of peopl
On 22 March 2012 08:37, En Pine wrote:
> First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to the
> user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for
> Commons, Simple, and other projects?
Is there any evidence anyone reads the template and doesn't j
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