Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

Hoi, What reason would there be that is consistent with the aims of the Wikimedia Foundation. What reason could be given that explicitly does not negate your wish for the deletion of the mo.wikipedia? You can not have it both ways imho. Thanks, GerardM On 13 October 2010 17:59, Gutza wrote

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

I created a small test script at . Works well to Cyrillize nds.wp ;-) (or any other wiki). It only supports reading so far, editing will be harder. The problem will be cases like a Romanian article written in Latin script and containing

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 17:59, Gutza wrote: >  On 13-Oct-10 18:52, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> There are also some rewrite rules. For example, the default (based on >> amount of texts written in Cyrillic; however, script-neutral) of >> Serbian Wikipedia is Cyrillic. If you go to http://sr.wikipedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

On 13-Oct-10 18:52, Milos Rancic wrote: > > There are also some rewrite rules. For example, the default (based on > amount of texts written in Cyrillic; however, script-neutral) of > Serbian Wikipedia is Cyrillic. If you go to http://sr.wikipedia.org/ > -- you will find the page in Cyrillic. Howev

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 17:31, Gutza wrote: >  On 13-Oct-10 18:25, Milos Rancic wrote: >> That sounds reasonably to me. I have to check what do other LangCom >> members think about it. > > What is it exactly that sounds reasonable to you? I haven't the faintest > idea what you're talking about. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

An'n 13.10.2010 17:31, hett Gutza schreven: > On 13-Oct-10 18:25, Milos Rancic wrote: >> That sounds reasonably to me. I have to check what do other LangCom >> members think about it. > What is it exactly that sounds reasonable to you? I haven't the faintest > idea what you're talking about. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

On 13-Oct-10 18:25, Milos Rancic wrote: > That sounds reasonably to me. I have to check what do other LangCom > members think about it. What is it exactly that sounds reasonable to you? I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about. I don't know how the Chinese/Serbian engine works -- you

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 17:10, Gutza wrote: > I'm not proposing turning ro.wiki to ro-latin-and-cyrl.wiki. I'm > proposing a gadget that would seamlessly transliterate to Cyrillic *and > back to Latin again, if possible* -- that way everybody reads in their > own script, and (if possible) writes i

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

An'n 13.10.2010 16:49, hett Gutza schreven: > On 13-Oct-10 17:40, Milos Rancic wrote: >>> I think the community at ro.wiki wouldn't mind that. >> Are you saying that ro.wp community would agree with transliteration >> engine between Romanian Latin and Moldovan Cyrillic orthographies? > I'm sayi

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

Milos, I'm not proposing turning ro.wiki to ro-latin-and-cyrl.wiki. I'm proposing a gadget that would seamlessly transliterate to Cyrillic *and back to Latin again, if possible* -- that way everybody reads in their own script, and (if possible) writes in their own script, while the database remai

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 16:49, Gutza wrote: >  On 13-Oct-10 17:40, Milos Rancic wrote: >>> I think the community at ro.wiki wouldn't mind that. >> Are you saying that ro.wp community would agree with transliteration >> engine between Romanian Latin and Moldovan Cyrillic orthographies? > > I'm sayi

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

On 13-Oct-10 17:40, Milos Rancic wrote: >> I think the community at ro.wiki wouldn't mind that. > Are you saying that ro.wp community would agree with transliteration > engine between Romanian Latin and Moldovan Cyrillic orthographies? I'm saying that I *think* the ro.wp wouldn't mind a *gadget*,

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 15:36, Gutza wrote: >    * Apart from Mark, nobody actually said they wanted to /read/, never >      mind write Romanian content in Cyrillic; the gadget I propose for >      ro.wiki would be more of a gesture of courtesy than any real help >      to anyone, but I think the

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia: Coherent proposal

In light of all the arguments, political and otherwise, discussed here, I propose the following: * Redirect mo.wiki to ro.wiki; I think this is undisputed, per the LoC recognition that Moldovan is deprecated; * Store the mo.wiki content, in whatever state it may be, for later use;

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On 13.10.2010 13:41, Gutza wrote: > On 13-Oct-10 13:32, David Gerard wrote: >> On 13 October 2010 11:19, Gutza wrote: >> >>> Nobody says the current content should be deleted -- just stop >>> serving it. >> >> Here you are playing with language, not advancing the discussion. By >> "delete", the

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Hoi, The language committee does not involve itself normally. In this thread it was suggested that it could by exception. What I have done is apply the normal arguments we use for new languages. The history of a language is of no relevance. What is relevant is that we have one series of projects f

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 13.10.2010 03:29, hett Gerard Meijssen schreven: > It has been suggested that a solution should be able to pass muster at the > language committee. I am seriously in favour of an end to this extravaganza. > However, I have not seen a proposal that would pass muster of the members of > the la

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On 13-Oct-10 13:32, David Gerard wrote: > On 13 October 2010 11:19, Gutza wrote: > >> Nobody says the current content should be deleted -- just stop >> serving it. > > Here you are playing with language, not advancing the discussion. By > "delete", the thread starter meant precisely "stop serving

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On 13 October 2010 11:19, Gutza wrote: > Nobody says the current content should be deleted -- just stop > serving it. Here you are playing with language, not advancing the discussion. By "delete", the thread starter meant precisely "stop serving it." - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On 13-Oct-10 07:58, Milos Rancic wrote: > but it would have been likely that we would have > it in the future, if Transnitrian Moldovans would have adopt Internet > in significant numbers Why not create the new subdomain ro-cyrl.wikipedia.org at that point in time? Nobody says the current content

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 00:49, Zugravu Gheorghe wrote: > I think Milos proposal was about to discuss the issue of the "moldovan" > wikipedia inside the interested people, the ones who sustain the idea of > a such, and the opponents (maybe the word is not the most appropriate > one - but i can reme

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Mark, You have been designated by Milos as the representative for the wonderful, if elusive, Cyrillic-writing Romanian-speakin people of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic. You seem to have taken your responsibilities seriously, so you wouldn't mind if I ask: where is your people? No Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Gutza, your #2 statement does not follow, Cyrillic has been and is currently used, including in schools, for the Eastern Romance/Daco-Romanian/Romanian/Moldovan/whatever variety spoken in all or some parts of Moldova (and/or, depending on your chosen political reality, the Pridnestrovian Moldavian

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

But then we have the following contradicting statements (and both are yours): 1. a Wikipedia is granted to a language not a country 2. the Moldovan language is in fact the Romanian language (the fact that it's written in Cyrillic is as relevant as proposing a project for English

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Hoi, The solution of a dissolution of the mo.wikipedia is in the recognition that it is Romanian language written in Cyrillic. This is the central argument and, consequently the Romanian language is part of an acceptable solution. Thanks, GerardM On 13 October 2010 03:34, Gutza wrote: > O

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On 13-Oct-10 04:29, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Remember, a Wikipedia is granted to a language not a > country. True. But which language is this about, specifically? Gutza ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https:

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Hoi, It has been suggested that a solution should be able to pass muster at the language committee. I am seriously in favour of an end to this extravaganza. However, I have not seen a proposal that would pass muster of the members of the language committee. Let me be specific; a solution needs to

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Mark, I hope I didn't touch the actual mo.wp issue in any way -- I was obviously referring to the decision process. On which your opinion seems to be "don't involve the community, keep it transparent, protect the absent". Milos came up with a proposal. I came up with a proposal. What is your prop

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On the matter of the disposition of mo.wp - I have stated it several times clearly in the other thread, that there should be some sort of accommodation available for users of the Cyrillic alphabet that enables both reading from and contributing to a Wikipedia, be it ro.wp or a separate Wikipedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Mark, There seems to be some communication problem here. Do you actually have an opinion on this matter or not? If you do have an opinion, what is it? Thank you, Gutza On 13-Oct-10 03:36, M. Williamson wrote: > 2010/10/12 Gutza : >> Mark, >> >> You are a veteran in Wikipedia matters -- you hav

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/12 Gutza : >  Mark, > > You are a veteran in Wikipedia matters -- you have been involved in this > project for several years under nickname "Node ue". You have fought in > the Moldovan language article on en.wp for years, and you have > single-handedly created and defended the entire mo.wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Mark, You are a veteran in Wikipedia matters -- you have been involved in this project for several years under nickname "Node ue". You have fought in the Moldovan language article on en.wp for years, and you have single-handedly created and defended the entire mo.wiki project, from interface to c

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

I think Milos proposal was about to discuss the issue of the "moldovan" wikipedia inside the interested people, the ones who sustain the idea of a such, and the opponents (maybe the word is not the most appropriate one - but i can remember any other more neutral word), together with the Langcom. In

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Gutza, the problem with such a solution is inequality of numbers. Every time this has been discussed previously, such forums have been dominated by Romanians from Romania with very little input from Moldovans and 0 input from Transnistrians. This is unfair and steps should be taken to remedy any sy

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

This issue has to be solved. And it couldn't be solved without general agreement on how it should be. I suggest that interested parties make a deal and I'll argue inside of the LangCom that it suggests to the Board to accept the agreement. As Transnitria has poor Internet access and we don't know

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 10.10.2010 22:50, hett M. Williamson schreven: > Yes, and I would like to remind you that until relatively recently, > all varieties of Romanian/Moldovan were always written in Cyrillic. > Anti-Cyrillic position is to state that Moldovan Cyrillic is an > artificial, Russian-based orthography

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/10 Zugravu Gheorghe : > > > On 06.10.2010 02:22, M. Williamson wrote: >> Marcus Buck wrote: >>> Read . >>> They want to switch to Latin since long but the government does >>> everything to stop them. >>> >> >> Marcus, that is a

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On 06.10.2010 02:22, M. Williamson wrote: > Marcus Buck wrote: >> Read . >> They want to switch to Latin since long but the government does >> everything to stop them. >> > > Marcus, that is a tiny minority of Moldovans in Transnistr

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

In that case, I think you and I have misunderstood each other. I don't think a transliteration engine should be a precondition to mo.wp being *moved*, just to it being *deleted*. I don't have any problem or disagreement with it being moved immediately. -m. 2010/10/5 Nathan : > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > I don't think it's right to delete content just because someone > doesn't like it without creating any sort of alternative. In addition, > I don't see how ro.wp community support would be needed if a separate > subdomain were used to set up su

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

I don't think it's right to delete content just because someone doesn't like it without creating any sort of alternative. In addition, I don't see how ro.wp community support would be needed if a separate subdomain were used to set up such a gateway - it would really be little more than a mirror ho

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Nathan wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:26 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > > Nathan, perhaps there is a communication error here. GerardM and I are > > arguing for the same thing, which is a transliteration engine, but > > ONLY so long as it allows people to read AN

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:26 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > Nathan, perhaps there is a communication error here. GerardM and I are > arguing for the same thing, which is a transliteration engine, but > ONLY so long as it allows people to read AND contribute, rather than > just being read-only as propos

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Nathan, perhaps there is a communication error here. GerardM and I are arguing for the same thing, which is a transliteration engine, but ONLY so long as it allows people to read AND contribute, rather than just being read-only as proposed by Marcus. My other contention is that if this is not possi

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Marcus Buck wrote: > Read . > They want to switch to Latin since long but the government does > everything to stop them. > Marcus, that is a tiny minority of Moldovans in Transnistria, and that article has many POV problems as well (I

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Marcus Buck wrote: >> Nathan > Mark's self-assessment is mo-2 and he was one of the main contributors > before the wiki got closed down: > . > > Marcus Buck > User:Slomox > My mistake. I knew he was a linguist, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 06.10.2010 00:16, hett Nathan schreven: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Muhammad Yahia wrote: > >> So a Romanian language would not be eligible unless it allowed support >> for Cyrillic, even if there is no community that is interested in writing in >> it? >> >> My point is simply that th

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 06.10.2010 00:13, hett Gerard Meijssen schreven: > Hoi, > The only thing expected is that they allow for a round robin > transliteration. The default will be the Latin script, there will only be an > option associated with the Romanian language that allows for the text to be > shown in Cyril

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 06.10.2010 00:00, hett Muhammad Yahia schreven: >> The Romanian Wikipedia would be eligible when support >> is provided / allowed for the Cyrillic script. >> >> I do not involve myself in the closures of projects. Typically they are not >> closed and often people have agendas asking for cl

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Muhammad Yahia wrote: > So a Romanian language would not be eligible unless it allowed support > for Cyrillic, even if there is no community that is interested in writing in > it? > > My point is simply that there seems to be a lot of discussion, but I am yet > to

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Hoi, The only thing expected is that they allow for a round robin transliteration. The default will be the Latin script, there will only be an option associated with the Romanian language that allows for the text to be shown in Cyrillic. The language policy allows for one project per project. It d

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

> The Romanian Wikipedia would be eligible when support > is provided / allowed for the Cyrillic script. > > I do not involve myself in the closures of projects. Typically they are not > closed and often people have agendas asking for closures. > So a Romanian language would not be eligible unle

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 05.10.2010 22:56, hett Gerard Meijssen schreven: > Hoi, > Your approach is the wrong one. Our aim is to bring information to all > people of this world. When people leave for political reasons, they are > welcome to leave. Their point of view is clearly not the Neutral Point Of > View that i

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Hoi, If a request for a Romanian language and a Moldovan language Wikipedia would be made, the Moldovan Wikipedia would be denied because it is no longer considered a language. The Romanian Wikipedia would be eligible when support is provided / allowed for the Cyrillic script. I do not involve mys

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Yes, I am not proposing that we have to have a new Moldovan-Romanian language Wiki (we don't have a United States-english Wiki, a Canadian-english Wiki, a Great Britain-english Wiki, an Australian-english Wiki, etc...). (oh, ouch, there's a contingent from New Zealand chasing me now!) I am saying,

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

I just went through the long closure proposal, and I have a question: Do we know of any active current supporters of mo.wp? The proposal for closure seemed to show one active contributor (who created the bulk of the articles). If a proposal to create a similar wp would go to langcom right now, woul

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Hoi, We will never have a Romanian or a Moldovan Wikipedia. What we have is a Romanian language Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM On 6 October 2010 04:11, George Herbert wrote: > NPOV is good as far as it goes, but the issues of wiki naming and > language are necessarily one where positions need

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

NPOV is good as far as it goes, but the issues of wiki naming and language are necessarily one where positions need to be taken on some very touchy real-world issues. The naming of mo.wikipedia and its use of Cyrillic were particularly unfortunate, as the Moldovan standard alphabet is Roman, the T

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Hoi, Your approach is the wrong one. Our aim is to bring information to all people of this world. When people leave for political reasons, they are welcome to leave. Their point of view is clearly not the Neutral Point Of View that is also expected of them in their contributions. Thanks, Ger

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 05.10.2010 22:24, hett M. Williamson schreven: > 2010/10/5 Gerard Meijssen: >> Hoi, >> Technically it is easier to transliterate from Cyrillic. So when >> transliteration works in a round robin fashion, it does not really matter in >> what script people edit. It will only be stored in one sc

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Marcus, have you conducted a poll of those people? Please don't make pronouncements of that sort without any research. We are not here to decide what people should or should not do, we are here to reflect things as they are on the ground, what is used by people currently, what is their "native vari

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/5 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Technically it is easier to transliterate from Cyrillic. So when > transliteration works in a round robin fashion, it does not really matter in > what script people edit. It will only be stored in one script. The choice > for a script can be based on a user sett

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 05.10.2010 21:03, hett M. Williamson schreven: > Marcus, thank you for the test. I don't think anybody doubts or > doubted that this is possible - of course a few more rules need to be > added, for example ea is almost always converted to cyrillic Ya, with > special exceptions, and several o

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Hoi, Technically it is easier to transliterate from Cyrillic. So when transliteration works in a round robin fashion, it does not really matter in what script people edit. It will only be stored in one script. The choice for a script can be based on a user setting or on the method access to the inf

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Marcus, thank you for the test. I don't think anybody doubts or doubted that this is possible - of course a few more rules need to be added, for example ea is almost always converted to cyrillic Ya, with special exceptions, and several other minor mistakes, but that isn't anything to do with the ac

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Have a look at . It's a quick demo of ro.wp content converted to Cyrillic. It's just a tiny extract of about 50 ro.wp articles (I wanted to import the full dump, but I have a limited bandwidth connection and the dump upload failed at 90% of the 1GB file). The co

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Also, note that it is not "the Moldovans" who are being ignored. There is one persistent spammer. Yes, it is clear people support him judging by the petitions he's shown us, but I gave them a glance and found many of the signatures are not from Moldovans. Here is one example of a signature on that

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/4 Nathan : > alternate script of Romanian (i.e. mo.wp vs. ro-cyrl.wp). As for > linguistic rights... Not really relevant, is it? But I guess the How is it not relevant? To me, that is at the very heart of this case: the right of a language community to exist and for us to provide reasonabl

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:03 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > That is a questionable assumption. Mo.wp's sitenotice explains that if > you'd prefer to view Moldovan content in Latin, the official alphabet > of the Republic of Moldova, you may find it at ro.wp. > > I am willing to bet that most of the peo

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

That is a questionable assumption. Mo.wp's sitenotice explains that if you'd prefer to view Moldovan content in Latin, the official alphabet of the Republic of Moldova, you may find it at ro.wp. I am willing to bet that most of the people who have signed these petitions will be upset if any Cyrill

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:02 AM, David Gerard wrote: > Possibly putting it at the bottom of the *long* list of other problems > in need of resolution (e.g. all the volunteer work that's backed up a > year or more, as Simetrical noted on wikitech-l) would be an idea. It already is, just like all of

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:53 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 4 October 2010 14:36, Nathan wrote: > >> Since this regularly comes up on this list, and the request is >> outstanding since 2006, maybe at the bottom of the to-do pile isn't >> the right place. Wouldn't the smartest temporary solution be t

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:02 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 4 October 2010 13:54, Chad wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Mariano Cecowski >> wrote: > >>> Would it be possible to change the source for editing and then back to be >>> stored? I can think of a couple of problems to solve, incl

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On 4 October 2010 13:54, Chad wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Mariano Cecowski > wrote: >> Would it be possible to change the source for editing and then back to be >> stored? I can think of a couple of problems to solve, including image and >> template names, or language links, but a

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Since this regularly comes up on this list, and the request is outstanding since 2006, maybe at the bottom of the to-do pile isn't the right place. Wouldn't the smartest temporary solution be to redirect mo.wp to ro.wp and move mo.wp to ro-cyrl.wp? That doesn't seem like a terribly difficult change

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Mariano Cecowski wrote: > Would it be possible to change the source for editing and then back to be > stored? I can think of a couple of problems to solve, including image and > template names, or language links, but all of them should be solvable, and > that sho

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010/10/4 Samuel Klein : > Is there any opposition to naming such a temporary project ro-cyrl? > In your proposal, the converter would eventually be available (as a > user pref) on ro.wp? I agree that it should be called ro-cyrl as mo is no longer considered a valid ISO code, but thinking of that

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

--- El lun 4-oct-10, Samuel Klein escribió: > Is there any opposition to naming such a temporary project > ro-cyrl? > In your proposal, the converter would eventually be > available (as a user pref) on ro.wp? The problem with the converter is that it only works for visualization. As it was poi

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:24 PM, M. Williamson wrote: > My proposal: Move mo.wp to mo-cyrl.wp or ro-cyrl.wp as an interim > measure. Create converter, once converter is created AND enabled, > delete mo-cyrl.wp. Thanks, Mark. Is there any opposition to naming such a temporary project ro-cyrl? In

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On 4 October 2010 14:36, Nathan wrote: > Since this regularly comes up on this list, and the request is > outstanding since 2006, maybe at the bottom of the to-do pile isn't > the right place. Wouldn't the smartest temporary solution be to > redirect mo.wp to ro.wp and move mo.wp to ro-cyrl.wp? T

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Zachary, contrary to characterizations made by others on this thread, that is exactly what happened. The Wiki was active, there were users creating articles, but unfortunately political considerations took top priority in a community vote that was held, which essentially pitted Russians against Rom

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

As mentioned, closure of a language version has its own page "proposal for closure of [that wiki]" on Meta, so no needs to open an RFC. If we consider A as a language or a dialect should be treated in a scientific manner. In general if there is an language either natural (like English, German ...)

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 04.10.2010 02:13, hett Zachary Harden schreven: > The project was active, but judging by the comments made before and after the > closure, it was closed due to a political spat (like a lot of projects coming > from the Eastern Bloc). Which ones exactly where closed? I don't think this clai

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Greetings, > We don't do this if the project is valid, just inactive and can restart > at a later date. But we usually remove projects entirely if they are > closed forever. See tokipona.wikipedia.org or tlh.wikipedia.org. > > Marcus Buck > User:Slomox The project was active, but judging by

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

An'n 04.10.2010 01:59, hett K. Peachey schreven: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Philippe Beaudette > wrote: >> English Wikiquote? Once the decision is made, then it falls to the >> developers to actually flip the switch or say the magic words, or do >> whatever it is they do to close the pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > English Wikiquote? Once the decision is made, then it falls to the > developers to actually flip the switch or say the magic words, or do > whatever it is they do to close the project. > > Philippe It has already been closed and added to

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

Greetings All, > > One of the key points that kept being reiterated in the Strategic > Planning process was that we have no method for "failing well". For > saying - we tried this, and it didn't work (I'm not saying that's the > case here, but I'm just using this as an example). The community

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

On Oct 3, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: > And, something I should > already know the answer to but just realized I don't, who within the > foundation or community makes this type of decisions, anyway? One of the key points that kept being reiterated in the Strategic Planning process w

Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

I presume that there is some background to this request that we are supposed to understand? If I had to guess (which I shouldn't), my supposition would be that the post and petition relate to some dispute about whether Moldovan is a separate language from Romanian? Is there any further backgroun