Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-05 Thread Teofilo
2011/3/4 Birgitte SB : > > > > > - Original Message >> From: Teofilo >> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List >> Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 5:05:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights >> >> 2011/2/27 Birgitte SB : >> >

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Birgitte SB
- Original Message > From: Teofilo > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 5:05:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights > > 2011/2/27 Birgitte SB : > > No one wants to attack French moral rights, or the attack the

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Newyorkbrad
This thread is at a bit too theoretical a plane for me to follow in detail. (As it happens, I'm a lawyer, but of course not a French lawyer.) Can someone give a specific instance (theoretical or historical) where the assertion of droit moral as applied to wiki content beyond what is expressly pres

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Arlen Beiler
Next thing these people will shutdown wikipedia because the french law says impre*scriptible*, and they will say that because wikipedia uses JS and so is scriptable, it shouldn't be around. What don't you like about the licence anyway? It is my opinion that the laws of the most influentual country

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Teofilo
2011/3/4 Teofilo : > 2011/3/4 Teofilo : > (...) >> (3) For example Spanish copyright law article 14 "derechos >> irrenunciables e inalienables (...) Exigir el reconocimiento de su >> condición de autor de la obra" >> >> http://civil.udg.es/normacivil/estatal/reals/Lpi.html >> >> They are also provi

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Teofilo
2011/3/4 Teofilo : (...) > (3) For example Spanish copyright law article 14 "derechos > irrenunciables e inalienables (...) Exigir el reconocimiento de su > condición de autor de la obra" > > http://civil.udg.es/normacivil/estatal/reals/Lpi.html > > They are also provided an international recogniti

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Teofilo
2011/3/4 David Gerard : > On 4 March 2011 11:05, Teofilo wrote: > >> No one ? I would not say so. I would rather say that 75.8% (1) want to >> attack moral rights, which are not French only (3), and, as I showed >> in my previous mail, are a value taken into account in Wikimedia >> projects in suc

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 March 2011 11:05, Teofilo wrote: > No one ? I would not say so. I would rather say that 75.8% (1) want to > attack moral rights, which are not French only (3), and, as I showed > in my previous mail, are a value taken into account in Wikimedia > projects in such documents as > http://commons

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Teofilo wrote: > In my opinion, the people who want to attack this, are on a sloppery > slope where the next step is when they request you to waive your human > rights. Are you quite serious? --vvv ___ foundation-l mai

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Teofilo
2011/2/27 Birgitte SB : > No one wants to attack French moral rights, or the attack the idiosyncrasies > of > any particular legal jurisdiction.  What we want to do is curate a large > international collection of free content that will remain free content 300 > years > from now after all of us ar

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Teofilo
Moral rights is one of the core values which used to be defended at least in the past, at least by a few community members. Things are changing so quickly these days that I can be sure of nothing, but it seems to be still the case today as shown on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:OTRS#Declar

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-03-04 Thread Teofilo
> It would seem that the right to license one's own work as one chooses is > one of those rights. How does French law resolve that conflict? By declaring that the contract where the contractant "chooses" to waive a fundamental right is void. You find the same line of thought in Jean Jacques Rouss

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-02-27 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
Indeed. It always starts with the finer details of CC 3.0. and it may well end in genocide. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Teofilo wrote: > French authorship rights law: > > Article L121-1 >       An author shall enjoy the right to respect for his name, his > authorship and his work. >       Th

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-02-27 Thread Birgitte SB
No one wants to attack French moral rights, or the attack the idiosyncrasies of any particular legal jurisdiction. What we want to do is curate a large international collection of free content that will remain free content 300 years from now after all of us are dead and can no longer be person

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

2011-02-27 Thread Fred Bauder
> French authorship rights law: > > Article L121-1 >An author shall enjoy the right to respect for his name, his > authorship and his work. >This right shall attach to his person. >It shall be perpetual, inalienable and imprescriptible. It may > be transmitted mortis causa t