Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread Ray Saintonge
H wrote: > Beta wikiversity is a hub for multiligual cooperation and the > incubator is just part of it. > The proposed multilingual wikibooks is for hosting books which cannot > find home comfortably in any language edition. > > It is fitting to have, for example, the link from a page in > cs:Wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread H
Beta wikiversity is a hub for multiligual cooperation and the incubator is just part of it. The proposed multilingual wikibooks is for hosting books which cannot find home comfortably in any language edition. It is fitting to have, for example, the link from a page in cs:Wikiversity to Beta:Wikiv

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Both the multilingual Wikibooks and Wikiversity exist as a kind of Incubator. Given that the aim is to create the single language editions, it means a lot of double work. Not such a good idea imho. Thanks, GerardM 2009/1/19 H > And it would greatly facilitate interwiki traffics to hav

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread H
And it would greatly facilitate interwiki traffics to have a code for a multilingual site (e.g. for the betawikiversity: and the multilingual wikisource, and the proposed multilingual wikibooks). See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 H.

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread H
And the renaming of zh-yue: to yue: (or at least the promised redirect) is long overdue (see [[bugzilla:8217]]). H. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-17 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
.@wikimedia.org > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:44:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > > - The language is called Moldovan, but Moldovan is also spoken in > > Transnistria >

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-17 Thread Kjetil Lenes
The vote on nn: is here: http://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Samfunnshuset#Avstemming And of course everything should wait untill both norwegian wikis have had there say. Regards, Kjetil ekkoekko @online.no Jon Harald Søby skreiv: > Sure. The vote will be held here: > http://no.wikipedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-17 Thread Jon Harald Søby
Sure. The vote will be held here: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avstemninger/Prefiks It is scheduled to start at 19 Jan and end on 1 Feb. 2009/1/17 Mark Williamson > Hi Jon, > > Do you have a link to the voting page so that interested parties may follow > it? > > Thanks > Mark > > 2009/

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-17 Thread Mark Williamson
Hi Jon, Do you have a link to the voting page so that interested parties may follow it? Thanks Mark 2009/1/17 Jon Harald Søby : > This isuue is about to be voted upon on nowiki; Kjetil is a bit too eager > here. > > 2009/1/17 Kjetil Lenes > >> I have added a bug report, 17047 >> https://bugzill

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-17 Thread Jon Harald Søby
This isuue is about to be voted upon on nowiki; Kjetil is a bit too eager here. 2009/1/17 Kjetil Lenes > I have added a bug report, 17047 > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17047, wishing to move > no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipediaorg. As several of you know no is the > code for bot

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Casey Brown
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Marcus Buck wrote: > We got 6 million bucks, ain't we? First of all, I hate how people say this. :-) We have had a budget drafted that required $6 million, we achieved that -- that doesn't mean we just have $6 million lying around to do whatever we want with it.

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
imedia Foundation Mailing List > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:47:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename > > Hoi, > If we want to decrease the backlog, we should not invest in more > extensions. > We should invest in capacity to assess the extensions

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > NB Five hundred dollars does not cut it. A *really *good commercial > programmer may bill you for this amount for a days work. $500/day isn't so much. Experienced contractors in programming can bill well upwards of $1000/day (I know this

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:47:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename > > Hoi, > If we want to decrease the backlog, we should not invest in more > extensions. > We should invest in capacity to assess the extensions that are waiting. We > should inves

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Foundation Mailing List Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:47:20 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename Hoi, If we want to decrease the backlog, we should not invest in more extensions. We should invest in capacity to assess the extensions that are waiting. We should invest in

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:45:24 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename Geoffrey Plourde hett schreven: > Well if we want to decrease the backlog, we could suggest that people put up > money for desired extensions I know its come up before and been rejecte, &g

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:45:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename > > Geoffrey Plourde hett schreven: > > I am sure he will handle the rename as soon as he can, but patience is > key. > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Marcus Buck
Geoffrey Plourde hett schreven: > Well if we want to decrease the backlog, we could suggest that people put up > money for desired extensions I know its come up before and been rejecte, > but it might attract people to develop stuff. > I'd support that. Absolutely. But on the other side I

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Mark Williamson
"Unresolved"... the wiki is closed already. Sure, it hasn't reached the "resolution" that this particular person wants... but hey, it could be open. 2009/1/16 Marcus Buck : > Yaroslav M. Blanter hett schreven: >> Could this thread be killed, please. We will never be able to get rid of >> this, sta

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Marcus Buck
Yaroslav M. Blanter hett schreven: > Could this thread be killed, please. We will never be able to get rid of > this, starting all over again once per month. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > It's natural, that unresolved issues come up again. The solution is to solve the issue. It will never come up aga

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:45:31 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename Geoffrey Plourde hett schreven: > I am sure he will handle the rename as soon as he can, but patience is key. >  cough, please be patient! It's only been three years since mo.wikipedia was

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Could this thread be killed, please. We will never be able to get rid of this, starting all over again once per month. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/list

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Marcus Buck
Geoffrey Plourde hett schreven: > I am sure he will handle the rename as soon as he can, but patience is key. > cough, please be patient! It's only been three years since mo.wikipedia was closed. The case will be handled as soon as one of our service team members becomes available. Marcus Bu

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
From: Cetateanu Moldovanu To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List ; br...@wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:44:47 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >  - The language is called Moldovan, but Moldo

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > - The language is called Moldovan, but Moldovan is also spoken in > Transnistria > - In Transnistria they write Cyrillic perfect, then http://mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org/ is for them > > - In Transnistria the Moldovan constitution is n

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
correction of my previous mail.. >/s/When you say "I write english with latin scripts", When you say "We write english with latin scripts" >/s/Here is a facebook group It's a facebook petition On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > This is an old old story with the same

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This is an old old story with the same arguments repeated again and again. - The language is called Moldovan, but Moldovan is also spoken in Transnistria - In Transnistria they write Cyrillic - In Transnistria the Moldovan constitution is not recognised - .. Yes, the Moldovan

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-16 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
The script of Moldovan language is stated in the constitution of Moldova country, a country where moldovian nation is living, and it is LATIN. >For whom? Yes, it's us, Moldovian people represented by Moldovian constitution, a democratic country, this is not me who choose to use latin script, IT'S U

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-12 Thread Michael Bimmler
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > I'm really sorry about the harshness, but Mr. "Moldovan Citizen" is > either completely clueless, or - more likely - a troll. From this > point i am stopping to feed him, and i suggest the whole list to do > the same. > And I am sure tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2009/1/11 geni : > 2009/1/11 Amir E. Aharoni : >> 2009/1/11 Jon Harald Søby : > Also, I'd like to know what's the progress of renaming the subdomain "mo" to > "mo-cyrl" mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org, as was stated in > november last year, an important issue for us. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-11 Thread Mark Williamson
I think most have more important things to worry about. Mark 2009/1/11 geni : > 2009/1/11 Amir E. Aharoni : >> 2009/1/11 Jon Harald Søby : > Also, I'd like to know what's the progress of renaming the subdomain "mo" to > "mo-cyrl" mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org, as was st

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-11 Thread geni
2009/1/11 Amir E. Aharoni : > 2009/1/11 Jon Harald Søby : >>> > Also, I'd like to know what's the progress of renaming the subdomain "mo" >>> to >>> > "mo-cyrl" mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org, as was stated in >>> > november last year, an important issue for us. >>> >>> For whom? > > Did

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2009/1/11 Jon Harald Søby : >> > Also, I'd like to know what's the progress of renaming the subdomain "mo" >> to >> > "mo-cyrl" mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org, as was stated in >> > november last year, an important issue for us. >> >> For whom? Did they have an election and chose Mr. Ce

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-11 Thread Jon Harald Søby
2009/1/11 Amir E. Aharoni > 2009/1/10 Cetateanu Moldovanu : > > Hello, I want to wish you all a Happy New Year ! > > > > Also, I'd like to know what's the progress of renaming the subdomain "mo" > to > > "mo-cyrl" mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org, as was stated in > > november last year,

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2009/1/10 Cetateanu Moldovanu : > Hello, I want to wish you all a Happy New Year ! > > Also, I'd like to know what's the progress of renaming the subdomain "mo" to > "mo-cyrl" mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org, as was stated in > november last year, an important issue for us. For whom? --

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-10 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
Hello, I want to wish you all a Happy New Year ! Also, I'd like to know what's the progress of renaming the subdomain "mo" to "mo-cyrl" mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org, as was stated in november last year, an important issue for us. Thanks for your activity. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:0

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-29 Thread Brion Vibber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Do not forget the als.wikipedia.org. It stands for Alsatian, but the als > code is the Tosk language. The "gsw" code is the code that should have been > used. > http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=gsw Addin

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-28 Thread Andre Engels
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Finn Rindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I thought there already *was* a redirect set up, so that no in > interwikis etc really is a redirect to nb. There is a redirect set up, but it goes in exactly the opposite direction. -- André Engels, [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-28 Thread Finn Rindahl
Well, I thought there already *was* a redirect set up, so that no in interwikis etc really is a redirect to nb. Finn 2008/11/29 Casey Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Finn Rindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > It would take quite a lot of effort to change all > > t

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-28 Thread Casey Brown
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Finn Rindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would take quite a lot of effort to change all > those "no"s throughout the wikimediaworld. That shouldn't be necessary, there would be a redirect set-up. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is us

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-28 Thread Finn Rindahl
Well, it also gives interesting filnames like this one http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Fileuploadsummary/nofromflickr That aside, nb should be the code used for Wikipedia in Norwegian (bokmål), but presently I believe it is only used for interwiki by our friends at Norwegian (nynorsk).

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-28 Thread Casey Brown
2008/11/28 Jon Harald Søby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Some might; personally I would favour it, but I don't know if the community > at large would... :/ > We wouldn't want to ruin that nice jingle though... 'there's nowiki, like nowiki!' -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is u

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-28 Thread Jon Harald Søby
Some might; personally I would favour it, but I don't know if the community at large would... :/ 2008/11/28 Casey Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/11/25 Jon Harald Søby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Don't forget zh-yue → yue and zh-min-nan → nan; these languages have got > > valid ISO 639-3 codes sinc

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-28 Thread Casey Brown
2008/11/25 Jon Harald Søby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Don't forget zh-yue → yue and zh-min-nan → nan; these languages have got > valid ISO 639-3 codes since creation. Also, als should be moved to gsw (als > is the code for Tosk Albanian, while als in Wikimedia is Alemannisch - not > even close to Tosk

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hoi, > That is not how things are. Against the protest of some the mo.wikipedia was > locked. The request was not for locking but for complete removal. > > The notion that just because some people want to edit a wiki in

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, That is not how things are. Against the protest of some the mo.wikipedia was locked. The request was not for locking but for complete removal. The notion that just because some people want to edit a wiki in any linguistic entity they can have their project is flatly wrong. There are requireme

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-26 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Cetateanu Moldovanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hopefully you'll also rename (better remove) the word > "Молдовеняскэ" > witch is in cyri

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-26 Thread Cetateanu Moldovanu
That's some very good news, thank you wikimedia for listening to us ! Hopefully you'll also rename (better remove) the word "Молдовеняскэ" witch is in cyrillic and is poi

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-26 Thread Raimond Spekking
Brion Vibber schrieb: > For quick background, it's pretty painful to rename a database in our > system, and we currently have a lot of bits in our configuration that > make automatic relationships between the database name and the domain > name, so this has delayed renaming of some language subdoma

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Do not forget the als.wikipedia.org. It stands for Alsatian, but the als code is the Tosk language. The "gsw" code is the code that should have been used. http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=gsw The nrm.wikipedia is also using a wrong code. nrm is Narom, a language from Malaysia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-25 Thread Jon Harald Søby
Don't forget zh-yue → yue and zh-min-nan → nan; these languages have got valid ISO 639-3 codes since creation. Also, als should be moved to gsw (als is the code for Tosk Albanian, while als in Wikimedia is Alemannisch - not even close to Tosk Albanian). 2008/11/26 Brion Vibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-25 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
I believe its a compromise. From: Pharos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename If the 'mo' language code is deprecated,

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-25 Thread Pharos
If the 'mo' language code is deprecated, then why not ro-cyrl.wikipedia.org ? Thanks, Pharos On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Brion Vibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For quick background, it's pretty painful to rename a database in our > system, and we currently have a lot of bits in our config

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2008-11-25 Thread Mark Williamson
There have been no edits at mo.wikipedia or mo.wiktionary because both databases are locked. Mark 2008/11/25 Brion Vibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > For quick background, it's pretty painful to rename a database in our > system, and we currently have a lot of bits in our configuration that > make aut