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Hi all again;
Another example of Wikipedia relativism, after
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>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:05:30 +
>> From: berial...@gmail.com
>> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: R
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> From: berial...@gmail.com
> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
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> Mateus the law is not approved yet. Is still in a committee.
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:40 AM, phoebe ayers wrote:
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> BTW, Vint Cerf, Paul Vixie and many others just signed a letter of
> internet engineers opposing SOPA:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/top-internet-engineers-warn-against-sopa/2011/12/15/gIQAGRV4vO_blog.html
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> -- pho
t; > From: phoebe.w...@gmail.com
> > To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
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> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Philippe Beaudette
> > wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:40:31 -0800
> From: phoebe.w...@gmail.com
> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
>
> On
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Philippe Beaudette
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Just wanted to let you know that I got word a few minutes ago that today's
> SOPA markup meeting will be using a new tool that allows for public input
> into the markup. Shortly before 8:30, you'll see the SOPA bill replac
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 06:26, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> Just wanted to let you know that I got word a few minutes ago that today's
> SOPA markup meeting will be using a new tool that allows for public input
> into the markup. Shortly before 8:30, you'll see the SOPA bill replace the
> OPEN bil
Hi folks,
Just wanted to let you know that I got word a few minutes ago that today's
SOPA markup meeting will be using a new tool that allows for public input
into the markup. Shortly before 8:30, you'll see the SOPA bill replace the
OPEN bill at Keepthewebopen.com. If you'd like to have input d
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Kim Bruning wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 04:04:36AM +, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> > On Dec 15, 2011 3:20 AM, "Kim Bruning" wrote:
> > > That, and remember that it is preferable to stage a protest BEFORE
> > passage of
> > > the bill. :-P
> >
> > I'm not sure
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 04:04:36AM +, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2011 3:20 AM, "Kim Bruning" wrote:
> > That, and remember that it is preferable to stage a protest BEFORE
> passage of
> > the bill. :-P
>
> I'm not sure about that. If we strike before they pass the bill then we are
> as
On Dec 15, 2011 3:20 AM, "Kim Bruning" wrote:
> That, and remember that it is preferable to stage a protest BEFORE
passage of
> the bill. :-P
I'm not sure about that. If we strike before they pass the bill then we are
assuming they will pass it. Shouldn't we give them a chance to do the right
thi
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 02:49:00AM +, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> I would say that "technically" Jimmy's statement that it was just an
> informal poll to decide whether it is worth discussing further is binding.
> Someone acting on that poll alone might get away with it, but it would
> "technically"
I would say that "technically" Jimmy's statement that it was just an
informal poll to decide whether it is worth discussing further is binding.
Someone acting on that poll alone might get away with it, but it would
"technically" be out-of-process.
On Dec 15, 2011 12:53 AM, "Kim Bruning" wrote:
>
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 05:12:34PM -0800, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> Before anyone blanks the en.wiki Main Page, please remember that the
> bill is still in committee. It could still be heavily modified or
> rejected completely before going to the floor. If it does go to the
> floor, it probably woul
Before anyone blanks the en.wiki Main Page, please remember that the
bill is still in committee. It could still be heavily modified or
rejected completely before going to the floor. If it does go to the
floor, it probably wouldn't be until January, so there's still some time
for other, less-dra
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:57:51PM +, Fae wrote:
> On 14 December 2011 22:42, Kim Bruning wrote:
>
> No. My opinion was on the straw man as stated, not for some later
> re-interpretation.
Um, You opposed the straw man as stated. If you strike your position,
then I'd interpret that as not wan
On 14 December 2011 22:42, Kim Bruning wrote:
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> OTOH, I think that it is pretty close to your intent that we indeed
> proceed, is it not?
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
No. My opinion was on the straw man as stated, not for some later
re-interpretation.
None of the !votes were for a car
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:59:13PM +, Fae wrote:
> > Strictly speaking, the straw poll there is sufficient, unless people bring
> > up true blockers.
> >
> > sincerely,
> > ? ? ? ?Kim Bruning
>
> I contributed to the straw poll on the understanding given at the top
> of the straw poll:
> "This
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> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:10:32 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
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> 87% is more than sufficient.
>
> En.wikipedia (not that one, I'm native of ptwiki and I voted in it
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>> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:00:38 +0000
>> From: dger...@gmail.com
>> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
>>
>> On 14 December 2011 21:57, Kim Bruning w
best. It's the only.
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> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:00:38 +
> From: dger...@gmail.com
> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt
On 14 December 2011 21:57, Kim Bruning wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 05:43:03PM +, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> Presumably
>> there will be a more formal process to decide whether we actually go
>> ahead with it - has that started somewhere? If not, has anyone at
>> least figured out what form
> Strictly speaking, the straw poll there is sufficient, unless people bring
> up true blockers.
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
I contributed to the straw poll on the understanding given at the top
of the straw poll:
"This is merely a straw poll to indicate overall interest. If this
poll is f
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 05:43:03PM +, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> Presumably
> there will be a more formal process to decide whether we actually go
> ahead with it - has that started somewhere? If not, has anyone at
> least figured out what form that process will take?
Strictly speaking, the straw
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 21:38, Mateus Nobre wrote:
>> I totally agree to fight against censorships in Internet and in real life, I
>> agree with that. And I fight against that. We can, as people and citizens;
>> But Wikimedia Foundation ca
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> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
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> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 21:38, Mateus Nobre wrote:
> > It's complex, Milos.
> >
> > We are not activists. Being a volunteer in Wikimedia do not torn oursel
>
> *At some point of time we'll have to articulate ourselves politically.*
>
If we decide to be honest with ourselves we must remember that we crossed
that line when it.wiki got off-line for a very similar reason.
And WMF also participated in Internet Censorship Day. not only participated
- orga
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 21:38, Mateus Nobre wrote:
> It's complex, Milos.
>
> We are not activists. Being a volunteer in Wikimedia do not torn ourselves
> activists.
>
> It could be, but the option to be a volunteer in Wikipedia is just a option
> to share the free knowledge, not about political
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> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:33:41 +0100
> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 19:23,
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 19:23, Mateus Nobre wrote:
>> What did WMF do when WikiLeaks domains were seized and its fundraising
>> payment processors (PayPal, Visa, MasterCard) were cut off? Did WMF protest
>> against Internet censorship? No.
>
> Wikimedia defends itself, not the ''justice in America
om
> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:08:38 +0100
> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
>
> Hi all;
>
> Looks like Wikimedia Foundation is very worried about censorship and the
> cut off of fundraising pa
Can someone summarise for me the current status of this strike idea?
Jimmy held an informal strawpoll on his talk page to see if there was
any support for such action, which there was (to my regret - as bad as
this act sounds, I really don't think it's a good idea). Presumably
there will be a more
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:08 AM, emijrp wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> Looks like Wikimedia Foundation is very worried about censorship and the
> cut off of fundraising payment processors. Now.
>
> What did WMF do when WikiLeaks domains were seized and its fundraising
> payment processors (PayPal, Visa, Mas
On 14 December 2011 16:46, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> You can call me an idealist -- if there are still some taking passengers at
> this late hour. I was in fact referring to the problem of our legal counsel
> expressing a view that it is to WMF favor to have laws that make it more
> difficul
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:
> On 14/12/2011 2:04 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>> I am genuinely not anti-american. The logic here does escape me though.
>
> From a lawmaker's point of view, this is clear enough: US-based
> websites are reachable through the usual
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 13:08, emijrp wrote:
> Looks like Wikimedia Foundation is very worried about censorship and the
> cut off of fundraising payment processors. Now.
>
> What did WMF do when WikiLeaks domains were seized and its fundraising
> payment processors (PayPal, Visa, MasterCard) were
On 14/12/2011 2:04 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> I am genuinely not anti-american. The logic here does escape me though.
From a lawmaker's point of view, this is clear enough: US-based
websites are reachable through the usual legal means and thus can be
shut down with local intervention i
Hi all;
Looks like Wikimedia Foundation is very worried about censorship and the
cut off of fundraising payment processors. Now.
What did WMF do when WikiLeaks domains were seized and its fundraising
payment processors (PayPal, Visa, MasterCard) were cut off? Did WMF protest
against Internet cens
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Jay Walsh wrote:
> Today the Wikimedia Foundation posted an important update on how the Stop
> Online Piracy Act (SOPA) legislation being considered in DC this week
> threatens an open and free web, and particularly how it threatens Wikipedia.
>
> The post is autho
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