Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-14 Thread Florence Devouard
Indeed Yaroslav I agree these are concerns and it is likely no solution will ever be perfect. I think the best way to limit (not avoid) such concerns is to make the process as transparent as possible. This one is quite a challenge since one of the key point in the process is that the name of

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-10 Thread cyrano
Le 09/02/2012 17:01, Emmanuel Engelhart a écrit : > On 02/09/2012 09:11 AM, Ting Chen wrote: > >> * The board is sharpening the criteria for payment processing. Payment processing is not a natural path to growth for a chapter; and payment processing will likely be an exception -- most chapters will

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Florence, I think you gave a great description of the process, and I agree that we should aim at the degree of transparency achieved in it. Actually, if I would be in charge of setting such a review panel, this is close to how I would do it. However, I also have similar personal experience. I am an

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Stuart West
Yes thanks, Florence. My view is that agreeing on a community-driven process (the Funds Dissemination Committee, or Funds Allocation Committee, whatever it wants to be called) to allocate funds is the easy part. The hard part is figuring out all the details: - how many people on this committe

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Arne Klempert
Thanks you so much, Florence. This is really interesting and definitely valuable food for thought - a very good starting point for the conversation about funds dissemination. Arne On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > Ah yeah. From what I understood, what I outline as a pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Florence Devouard
Ah yeah. From what I understood, what I outline as a process is very similar to any type of academic call of projects/funding in the USA, such as NSF, NASA, NIH, DOE etc. Most basic principle: peer review evaluation. Florence On 2/9/12 11:52 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: I wanted to share an

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Florence Devouard
I wanted to share an experience with regards to a future FDC. During two years, I was a member of the "comité de pilotage" (which I will here translate in "steering committee") of the ANR (National Research Agency in France). The ANR distributes every year about 1000 M€ to support research in

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Arne Klempert
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Stuart West wrote: > Thanks Ting for posting, Phoebe for jumping in already, and everyone for > questions so far.  As the WIkimedia Board member most focused on financial > issues, I thought i should share some personal observations on the > fundraising letter an

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: > On 02/09/2012 09:11 AM, Ting Chen wrote: > > * The board is sharpening the criteria for payment processing. Payment >> processing is not a natural path to growth for a chapter; and payment >> processing will likely be an exception -- mos

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 9 February 2012 20:01, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: > Without any financial autonomy (that means the ability to raise and invest > funds), a chapter can only beg for money. I do not share your vision of the > chapter's future - neither for the "old" nor for the "young" ones. Plenty of charities a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Emmanuel Engelhart
On 02/09/2012 09:11 AM, Ting Chen wrote: * The board is sharpening the criteria for payment processing. Payment processing is not a natural path to growth for a chapter; and payment processing will likely be an exception -- most chapters will not do so. Without any financial autonomy (that me

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Stuart West
Thanks Ting for posting, Phoebe for jumping in already, and everyone for questions so far. As the WIkimedia Board member most focused on financial issues, I thought i should share some personal observations on the fundraising letter and issues behind it. See my blog post: http://wikistu.org/2

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Alice Wiegand
Hi Phoebe, thank you for the clarification and thanks to the board for sharing this kind of summary soon after the meeting. On 9 February 2012 18:08, phoebe ayers wrote: > Hi Lodewijk, > > In this board meeting we were trying to see if we had a general > consensus on the direction we wanted to g

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread phoebe ayers
Hi Lodewijk, In this board meeting we were trying to see if we had a general consensus on the direction we wanted to go (rather than take a final vote). There are still lots of aspects to be resolved, though -- what the FDC looks like, what criteria are used for payment processing, and many more t

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
Ting, Thank you for this. I'm confused, though. You say you want to have another month of discussions, but I don't see any questions in your letter. What is it you want to discuss? Everyone that wants to has expressed their views. The numerous debates on meta and elsewhere have reached their natu

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Letter Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Ting, thank you for the letter. Could you clarify to what extent this is the end decision, and how much discussion/process should be expected ahead of us? Going up to this board meeting I have heard both the opinions that the final decision would be made quickly, and also that definitely no dec