Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-07 Thread Pharos
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Some modifications and requested info has been added to:   > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ask.wikimedia.org_(Q%26A_site) > > -greg aka varnent There have also been a couple of other proposals on meta along these same lines, and perhaps som

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-07 Thread Jan Kučera
FD seem to collect lots of crappy feedback... Why WMF promis always think a wiki interface will save the world? It definitely will not, because newbies will never touch this interface... and this is a BIG BIG problem nobody wants to acknowledge. We do need services that are easier to use than a wi

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Peter Coombe wrote: > Wasn't there a proposal a while back for a Stack Exchange [1] site > like this? It seems like the ideal software for it. StackExchange and the open source OSQA equivalent are indeed powerful tools and worth experimenting with. Anyone wanting t

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
This site could be an interesting test ground for the developing visual editor and future LiquidThreads projects. I always feel a little weird when we develop new platforms rather than enhance the MediaWiki platform. -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Peter Coombe wrote: > Wasn't there a pro

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Peter Coombe
Wasn't there a proposal a while back for a Stack Exchange [1] site like this? It seems like the ideal software for it. Although IMO if MediaWiki discussions are too confusing for new users, we should be concentrating on fixing that (*cough* LiquidThreads *cough*) rather than going to a different p

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Thomas Morton
You might want to warn stackexchange ;-) Tom Morton On 6 Apr 2012, at 21:44, John wrote: > WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and > yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The > legalities and paperwork necessary to avoid the WMF from g

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Fair enough - I could also go around and around on the value or challenge of using wiki style editing to help folks running into problems using wiki edit tools.. -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Mono wrote: > Possibly, but maybe more trouble that it's worth. > > On Friday, April 6, 2012, G

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
I'm unclear from a legal perspective how this presents a "nightmare". In what ways do volunteers responding to Q&A's about Wikimedia projects and content present great challenges than existing efforts like enWP's Reference Desk and MW.org's Support desk? In regards to answers.yahoo.com - I thi

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
Possibly, but maybe more trouble that it's worth. On Friday, April 6, 2012, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Is there a more "wiki" like version of that platform available - or would > development of such a platform be feasible and of interest to our volunteer > developers? > > -greg > > > On Apr 6, 2012,

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
I believ you misinterpreted the use. This tool would only do users EDITing Wikipedia. On Friday, April 6, 2012, John wrote: > WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and > yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The > legalities and paperwork

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread John
WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The legalities and paperwork necessary to avoid the WMF from getting their asses sued off for bad answers is probably a multi-year endeavor, and a money sink. Ho

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Is there a more "wiki" like version of that platform available - or would development of such a platform be feasible and of interest to our volunteer developers? -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Mono wrote: > Take a look at toolserver.org/~mono/qua > > On Friday, April 6, 2012, Gregory Var

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
Take a look at toolserver.org/~mono/qua On Friday, April 6, 2012, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Some modifications and requested info has been added to: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ask.wikimedia.org_(Q%26A_site) > > -greg aka varnent > > > On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Samuel Klein > > wrote: > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Some modifications and requested info has been added to: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ask.wikimedia.org_(Q%26A_site) -greg aka varnent On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Great! Could you two please revise the current dormant proposal at > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
I will be happy to set such a site for the Foundation, as soon as someone gives me the power to do so... the only development task is to connect existing software (probably OSQA) to Global login system... Btw, Erik, I actually like acting rather than talking and I am terribly frustrated from the "

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Great! Could you two please revise the current dormant proposal at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiAnswers And note that one of the active uses of the site would be a channel dedicated to Q&A about using the Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki? I think it is simpler and easier to say "let's star

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
I would be interested in helping with this project from a third-party wiki and MediaWiki developer perspective. -greg aka varnent On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Jan Kučera wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> new projects suck, because there are (clo

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Jan Kučera wrote: > Hi there, > > new projects suck, because there are (close to) none > asked some time ago already with few positive replies > > bug was already filled at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29923 > is there someone who can help move on?

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
Yes and why the damn WMF does not throw their support behind such projects? Do they consider us all to be useless idiots when proposing such things? 2012/4/6 Mono : > Well, I don't think it could be successful unless the Foundation threw > their support behind it. > > On Friday, April 6, 2012, K.

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
Well, I don't think it could be successful unless the Foundation threw their support behind it. On Friday, April 6, 2012, K. Peachey wrote: > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jan Kučera > > wrote: > > new projects suck, because there are (close to) none > > Well propose a non sucky one then? > > T

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread K. Peachey
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jan Kučera wrote: > new projects suck, because there are (close to) none Well propose a non sucky one then? TBH I don't class a Q&A site really as a new project. Since that bug (if memory serves correctly) is just about setting one up for questions about using/edi

[Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - Q&A site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
Hi there, new projects suck, because there are (close to) none asked some time ago already with few positive replies bug was already filled at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29923 is there someone who can help move on? not really expecting tremendous action(s), but just giving