Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-18 Thread Mike Godwin
Frieda writes: > As far as I remember we asked WMF help just once, few months ago. > There were nothing in the news at that moment. > I'm sorry the original request didn't get through to me, for whatever reason. (I suspect a spam filter blocked the earlier message because it contained two long UR

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-18 Thread Mike Godwin
Nemo, can you explain why this message is offensive to Wikimedia Italia, since it does not refer at all to Wikimedia Italia, but to Italian press reports about claimed cases against the *Wikimedia Foundation* (not Wikimedia Italia) that have surfaced in the past in the Italian press? I apologize i

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/18 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > Mike Godwin, 16/09/2009 07:54: >> We've had a lot of experience of spurious reports of lawsuits originating in >> Italy. In the majority of those cases, Wikimedia Foundation itself never >> receives service of process -- in effect, the cases only really "exist" in

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-18 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Brian, 18/09/2009 17:15: >> To restate, there is a tendency in Italy for a media sensation to be >> made of purportedly legal matters when no legal actual legal processes >> have been initiated, and  no legal documents drafted. > > Cf

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Brian, 18/09/2009 17:15: > To restate, there is a tendency in Italy for a media sensation to be > made of purportedly legal matters when no legal actual legal processes > have been initiated, and no legal documents drafted. Cfr. Marco. > As you can see, > the statement has nothing to do with

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-18 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Brian wrote: > To restate, there is a tendency in Italy for a media sensation to be made of > purportedly legal matters when no legal actual legal processes have been > initiated, and  no legal documents drafted. As you can see, the statement > has nothing to do wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-18 Thread Brian
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Mike Godwin, 16/09/2009 07:54: > > We've had a lot of experience of spurious reports of lawsuits originating > in > > Italy. In the majority of those cases, Wikimedia Foundation itself never > > receives service of process -- in effect

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Mike Godwin, 16/09/2009 07:54: > We've had a lot of experience of spurious reports of lawsuits originating in > Italy. In the majority of those cases, Wikimedia Foundation itself never > receives service of process -- in effect, the cases only really "exist" in > Italian media. I'm not saying that'

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-17 Thread Sue Gardner
2009/9/17 Frieda Brioschi : > 2009/9/16 Mike Godwin : >> We've had a lot of experience of spurious reports of lawsuits originating in >> Italy. > > How many originating from Wikimedia Italia? > >> I'd like to see any official complaints that have been filed in Italian >> courts (or elsewhere) again

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-17 Thread Frieda Brioschi
2009/9/17 Everton Zanella Alvarenga : > Ciao, > I'd like also to have a copy. Can you put it online? Would you > infringe some law if you put in Wikisource? > If it's not possible to put online, please, send to my email. Sorry, I can't publish it. But tomorrow morning (now it's 10 pm in Italy) I'l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-17 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Ciao, 2009/9/17 Frieda Brioschi : > I'll forward to you a copy of the document in few minutes. It's in > italian. Is it ok for you? I'd like also to have a copy. Can you put it online? Would you infringe some law if you put in Wikisource? If it's not possible to put online, please, send to my e

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-17 Thread Frieda Brioschi
2009/9/17 Mike Godwin : >> How many originating from Wikimedia Italia? > > Not many, and perhaps not any -- in general the spurious threat is against > WMF itself, so far as I can recall. As far as I remember we asked WMF help just once, few months ago. There were nothing in the news at that momen

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-17 Thread Mike Godwin
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Frieda Brioschi wrote: > 2009/9/16 Mike Godwin : > > We've had a lot of experience of spurious reports of lawsuits originating > in > > Italy. > > How many originating from Wikimedia Italia? > Not many, and perhaps not any -- in general the spurious threat is aga

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-17 Thread Frieda Brioschi
2009/9/16 Mike Godwin : > We've had a lot of experience of spurious reports of lawsuits originating in > Italy. How many originating from Wikimedia Italia? > I'd like to see any official complaints that have been filed in Italian > courts (or elsewhere) against Wikimedia Italia. I'll forward to

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-16 Thread Ray Saintonge
Mike Godwin wrote: > Nathan writes: > >> Interesting. Although the Italian media also reported that I (and >> Jimbo and various others) was being sued for 50 million euros, and I >> haven't seen that lawsuit yet. >> > We've had a lot of experience of spurious reports of lawsuits originating

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Godwin
Nathan writes: > > Interesting. Although the Italian media also reported that I (and > Jimbo and various others) was being sued for 50 million euros, and I > haven't seen that lawsuit yet. > We've had a lot of experience of spurious reports of lawsuits originating in Italy. In the majority of tho

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-15 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Sage Ross wrote: > Italian Wikimedians are reporting that Wikimedia Italia (the Italian > local chapter) and former chapter president (and former Wikimedia > board member) Frieda Brioschi are being sued for an outrageous sum > over alleged defamation in a (now-dele

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia being sued

2009-09-15 Thread Sage Ross
Italian Wikimedians are reporting that Wikimedia Italia (the Italian local chapter) and former chapter president (and former Wikimedia board member) Frieda Brioschi are being sued for an outrageous sum over alleged defamation in a (now-deleted) biography on Italian Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.o