Re: [Foundation-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-22 Thread David Richfield
>> About external links, the real question is: what is a good number of >> links to have at the end of an article?  Everyone will surely agree >> that an article with 100 external links at the end is not ideal.  What >> people want from Wikipedia is a site where others have sifted through >> the ch

Re: [Foundation-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-22 Thread kgorman
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote: So tell me, what failure rate would you find acceptable? You apparently are not disturbed at a >90% failure rate to use external links; would you be disturbed at 95%? At 99%? Before trying to put me onto a slippery slope, explain where on the

Re: [Foundation-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-22 Thread Gwern Branwen
2011/12/22 David Richfield : > This article starts as a complaint about external links being moved to > talk pages and never making it back to the main page, and then becomes > a rant against deletionism. No, it does not 'start' as that; the complaint is a subsection and case-study into one deleti

Re: [Foundation-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-21 Thread David Richfield
This article starts as a complaint about external links being moved to talk pages and never making it back to the main page, and then becomes a rant against deletionism. About external links, the real question is: what is a good number of links to have at the end of an article? Everyone will sure

[Foundation-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-21 Thread Gwern Branwen
I have just completed and written up a little research project of mine: http://www.gwern.net/In%20Defense%20Of%20Inclusionism#the-editing-community-is-dead-who-killed-it Summary: 1. Talk pages are where references/links/citations go to die; less than 10% ever make it back 2. In just the sampled e