Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Thomas Morton
> > This results from point #3. We do not want to depend on 3rd party in terms > of content security and reliability Not to be glib of course... but you mean like we depend on the commercial hosts/datacenters and top tier connectivity. I do think this point needs stressing though... going your

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Kozuch
an have a Q&A site up in minutes and the only coding task would be SUL integration... Does anyone think there is a way how to test-drive some solution hosted in-house? Incubator, toolserver or where to start? Kozuch > Původní zpráva > Od: Tom Morris > Pře

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Tom Morris
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 22:07, Thomas Morton wrote: >> True.  But we don't need to use proprietary software for this. > > Why? > > Honest question; SE has sensible ideals and license their content well. Why > add to the workload of our sysops and developers with another system to > maintain and su

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Oliver Moran
> There's a simple question: Can you run all key services relevant to Wikimedia using only free/open software? The question of "key service" is very interesting. If something were considered to be a key service, I would definately say that it should be managed by Wikimedia and, for practical reaso

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Oliver Moran wrote: > The issues you raise about open-source vs. proprietary software, that's an > open-source vs. proprietary software debate - and one that sounds like it is > on the ideological edge of that arena. As a software engineer who develops > proprietar

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Oliver Moran
> From the perspective of our mission, they are indeed doing things wrong. [From the perspective of running a small business, they may be doing just fine.] Our mission statement: "The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop educa

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Bastien Guerry
aude writes: > I would like to see it located at help.wikimedia.org or > help.en.wikimedia.org or something... I would suggest ask.wikimedia.org IMHO help.wikimedia.org is a bit ambiguous as it can mean "Please help Wikimedia". -- Bastien ___ fou

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Bastien Guerry
Oliver Moran writes: > There's no need to re-invent the wheel. Note that "wikipedia" and "mediawiki" already appears in StackOverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/wikipedia?sort=votes&pagesize=15 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/mediawiki?sort=votes&pagesize=15 Surpr

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Oliver Moran wrote: > It is a disappointment in some respects that Stack Overflow uses proprietary > software (not least because it is so wonderful) but in all other respects, as > a community, they do a great job. I have had wonderful experiences with them > a

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread aude
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > > The part of our audience that would need the Q&A is not the same as, say, > OpenStreetMap. There you have people using the tool that need a forum to > ask > for help and advice. This we already have in a fairly effective form; > discussion

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread phoebe ayers
.3+, MySQL 5) > - http://shapado.com/ (Ruby) > - http://www.lampcms.com/ > - http://pligg.com/ > - http://askbot.org > > Kozuch > >> ---- Původní zpráva -------- >> Od: Samuel Klein >> Předmět: Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Thomas Morton
> > but I won't belabour the point :) > Actually I will make one more comment (sorry) :) because I do actually have sound reasoning behind my suggestion beyond just "it's better", and it is only right I lay them out. (I've maintained/operated/implemented a number of Q&A sites for small communiti

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Oliver Moran
Ditto. It is a disappointment in some respects that Stack Overflow uses proprietary software (not least because it is so wonderful) but in all other respects, as a community, they do a great job. I have had wonderful experiences with them and I would urge anyone to get behind them. Whether the

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Kozuch
elp system. > Původní zpráva > Od: Béria Lima > Předmět: Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within > Wikimedia > Datum: 21.7.2011 21:08:25 > > http://en.wikipedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Thomas Morton
> Is it really that much load on Wikimedia sysops to install a (very simple) > script like OSQA? For the value added it would pay itself quickly off. But > this goes down to resource allocations and innovation potential at the > Foundation, which I can not understand most of the time... > It's sim

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Kozuch
... > Původní zpráva > Od: Thomas Morton > Předmět: Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within > Wikimedia > Datum: 21.7.2011 23:07:15 > > > True. But we don't need to use proprietary s

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Thomas Morton
> True. But we don't need to use proprietary software for this. Why? Honest question; SE has sensible ideals and license their content well. Why add to the workload of our sysops and developers with another system to maintain and support We do Wiki's really well. SE do Q&A extremely well...

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Oliver Moran wrote: > I would absolutely recommend Stack Exchange. The software is far more > suitable for community Q&A than Mediawiki. The Stack Exchange network of > sites also share much of the free content and community spirit of Wikimedia. > For example, Q

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Kozuch
muel Klein > Předmět: Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within > Wikimedia > Datum: 21.7.2011 22:56:08 > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Oliver Moran wrote: > > I would absolutely recommend Stack Exchange. The

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Oliver Moran
I would absolutely recommend Stack Exchange. The software is far more suitable for community Q&A than Mediawiki. The Stack Exchange network of sites also share much of the free content and community spirit of Wikimedia. For example, Q&As are licensed under CC-BY-SA and the sites are community ru

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Thomas Morton
There was a push to launch a stackexchange site relating to Wikipedia a few months back. It's currently in the commitment phase - needing people to commit to seeding it. SE is a proven QA platform; so worth considering. Tom Morton On 21 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Samuel Klein wrote: > This is a good

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
This is a good idea. They are using OSQA, yes? SJ On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) wrote: > Hi there, > > I propose to start a Q&A system within Wikimedis. We need a central place for > help. Getting an advise is too complicated now if a person has very diverse > question

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Béria Lima
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ is not enough? _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer

[Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Kozuch
Hi there, I propose to start a Q&A system within Wikimedis. We need a central place for help. Getting an advise is too complicated now if a person has very diverse questions, he/she needs to look for various wiki discussion pages. Not very easy for newbies. Could be inspired by the help site of