On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:07 AM, wrote:
>
> The last time someone just said 'Creative Commons license' on one of my
> pics they were linking back to the flickr page which has the CC license
> link. Now most dont bother saying CC though they do link back to the
> flickr photopage, the information i
Sage Ross wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, wrote:
>>
>> If someone write a piece of music and releases it under a CC-BY-SA
>> license, they can also allow uses under other conditions. Now assume
>> that you hear that music in some TV advert is the advert CC-BY-SA? Not
>> if the creator of
Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/9/7 Bod Notbod :
>> Is it possible to keep my proposal intact and address those issues?
>
> Yes. Just put "(This will allow your image to be used on Wikipedia)"
> next to the "CC-BY-SA" option.
This would suffer from exactly the same problem.
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Bod Notbod wrote:
> I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for
> use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to
The problem with that kind of simplified explanation of what
CC-BY-SA means is that content that is "licensed for use on
Wikipedia" will be reje
It still isn't the place of a third party to police someone else's copyrights.
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s, not the community.
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2009/9/7 Sage Ross :
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
>> The Commons Force pr
2009/9/7 Bod Notbod :
> Is it possible to keep my proposal intact and address those issues?
Yes. Just put "(This will allow your image to be used on Wikipedia)"
next to the "CC-BY-SA" option.
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2009/9/7 Bod Notbod :
> That's a very fair comment.
> Is it possible to keep my proposal intact and address those issues?
Indeed. Just note on CC-by and CC-by-sa that they also make it
eligible for Wikipedia.
Offer a tickbox for asking Wikipedia reviewers to check your image,
putting up a list
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:47 PM, wrote:
>> That's easily answered.
>>
>> I'm not "renaming the license". I'm proposing that there be a tick box
>> for that very same license with a more friendly tag that tells the
>> user "can be used on Wikipedia". The license doesn't change, it's just
>> the wa
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, wrote:
> Sage Ross wrote:
>>
>> If a copyleft license is being violated, that is potentially of
>> concern beyond the two legal parties, since properly using the license
>> would mean that derivative works are also part of the commons and
>> available for others to
2009/9/7 Sage Ross :
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
>> The Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both for
>> whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third party to
>> intervene in a contract between two people and only two peopl
Sage Ross wrote:
>
> If a copyleft license is being violated, that is potentially of
> concern beyond the two legal parties, since properly using the license
> would mean that derivative works are also part of the commons and
> available for others to use and adapt.
The problem is that YOU have
Bod Notbod wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, wrote:
>
>>> On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal.
>>>
>>> I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for
>>> use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to
>>>
>>> a) make their pictures available to us
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, wrote:
>> On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal.
>>
>> I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for
>> use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to
>>
>> a) make their pictures available to us and
>>
>> b) easier to find
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
> The Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both for
> whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third party to
> intervene in a contract between two people and only two people.
This kind of attitude s
Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
> I agree, vigilantism is not necessary and counter productive. The
> Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both
> for whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third
> party to intervene in a contract between two people and only two
>
Bod Notbod wrote:
> On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal.
>
> I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for
> use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to
>
> a) make their pictures available to us and
>
> b) easier to find by Wikipedians.
>
You can
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Jovan Cormac wrote:
> wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Secondly, just because YOU think something is PD or licensed under
>> Creative Commons does not mean that it i
Jovan Cormac wrote:
> wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Secondly, just because YOU think something is PD or licensed under
>> Creative Commons does not mean that it is in reality so. For example
>> many images on flickr have been lifted from the web and the account
>> uploading them fals
I met a few people helping out with Wikimania, including the lead
photographer on site, who got involved with the local Wikimedia
community after their photostream was found on Flickr and incorporated
into Wikipedia (es:wp)... Discovering your work has been used by
someone else is always a nice ic
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Jovan Cormac wrote:
> That's a great idea. They might even do it...
Thanks! :o)
I can't think of any huge reasons for them not to. I don't think it
would reduce their traffic. I suppose there's "why should they?" I
think it would be an improvement to the user expe
That's a great idea. They might even do it...
Cheers,
Jovan Cormac
Bod Notbod wrote:
> On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal.
>
> I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for
> use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to
>
> a) make their pictures av
On the subject of Flickr, I have a proposal.
I'd like to see an option given to Flickr users to check "license for
use on Wikipedia" which would be an easy way for people to
a) make their pictures available to us and
b) easier to find by Wikipedians.
It could be argued that it should say "licen
For static timed text mv-embed library works reasonably well. It has a
simple interface for selecting the text track / language. What remains
to be done is an interface for people to collaboratively edit and
contribute the original transcript and translations. (some work has been
done in that a
wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
> Firstly, people are NOT meant to be uploading content to flickr that
> they did not take themselves.
They do, though.
> If someone blogs the photo from flickr
> then the flickr system will tag it as the work of the account that IOW
> it will be falsely attr
Jovan Cormac wrote:
> Michael, I'm afraid you didn't understand the proposal.
>
> The proposal has nothing to do whatsoever with people contributing to
> Commons not being educated about licenses. It's about contacting to
> people *outside* of Commons, people who may not be involved in any
> Wi
Jovan Cormac, 06/09/2009 20:37:
> The proposal has nothing to do whatsoever with people contributing to
> Commons not being educated about licenses. It's about contacting to
> people *outside* of Commons, people who may not be involved in any
> Wikimedia project, and tell them about PD or CC med
Michael, I'm afraid you didn't understand the proposal.
The proposal has nothing to do whatsoever with people contributing to
Commons not being educated about licenses. It's about contacting to
people *outside* of Commons, people who may not be involved in any
Wikimedia project, and tell them a
Hoi,
I like the idea of a video that explains copyright and licenses. It is
however important that this video is subtitled.. What is the status of
subtitling for your software ??
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/9/6 Michael Dale
> I think a small interactive quiz or 30-60 sec videos at point of uplo
I think a small interactive quiz or 30-60 sec videos at point of upload
/ contribution.. may help "encourage" people to get informed about these
subjects and properly tag the media. For media pulled from external
archive we should ideally only support importing compatible licensed media
I don't
I'd like to propose a project I tentatively refer to as "Commons Force" (Meta
link: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CommonsForce).
Commons Force is a wiki used to coordinate a force of volunteers who *actively*
educate people about the concepts of public domain and the Creative Commons.
That ent
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