> Ray, does the article say he was not the President of the Government
> Council? I found a link on that and added it to the article, but the
> reference, how should I put it, does not look to me as an ultimately to
> most authoritative source. I will search more, but if you have the
material
> at
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Mateus Nobre wrote:
>
> This hostility is being reflected in the drop at the number of the editors.I
> agree with the ''automatic-message theory''. None likes automatic messages.
> In my view, it should be reserved for vandals.
> Newbies needs a special priority.
> This is completely understandable. I recently looked at a 13-page
> article in the Bullletin of the Pan American Union for 1933 on
> "Hipólito Unánue." Our stub article shows him as president of Peru in
> 1825-6. He wasn't. I had to ask myself how much time am I prepared to
> use for sorting
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
wrote:
> I don't remember if we ever asked, in our general surveys, how and when
> contributors discovered that they /could/ edit. But perhaps after
> they've edited it's too late becauser they've already fallen in the
> category "I don't rem
I don't think simple text or link changes will really do the trick. I think
popup bubbles could be more successful.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:55 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> David Gerard, 31/10/2011 12:29:
> > I’ve been into Wikipedia for several years, and all my friends know
> > this. I *s
On 10/31/11 1:31 PM, Michael Snow wrote:
>
> For me, the most common reason why an "edit" click is not followed by a
> "save" is because I end up not having the time to complete the work, or
> the edit I had in mind becomes more complicated than I thought
> (sometimes the latter partly explains the
On 3 November 2011 09:45, Béria Lima wrote:
> Well, no newbie will wake up and say: "I want to place references in
> Wikipedia articles today" - they do because one of us asked them to do. And
> all (maybe not all but most of) us know the software, and don't cost more
> of our time ask them t
Well, no newbie will wake up and say: "I want to place references in
Wikipedia articles today" - they do because one of us asked them to do. And
all (maybe not all but most of) us know the software, and don't cost more
of our time ask them to use it. In fact a message explaining how to use
the
On 11/01/11 4:43 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cite4wiki/ (in wiki:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite4Wiki )
>
> right click and paste in the article. Easier than that can't be ;)
>
The newbie still has to find out from somewhere that he should
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 02:08:24PM +0100, Svip wrote:
> On 31 October 2011 12:55, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
>
> > What's the impact of changes like
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Tagline&diff=20130615&oldid=17050524
> > ?
>
> Thank you for that, that was hilarious to
gt;
>
> -Mensagem Original-
> From: Marco Chiesa
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:02 AM
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Béria Lima wrote:
> > https:
ion-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Béria Lima wrote:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cite4wiki/ (in wiki:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite4Wiki )
>
> right click and paste in the article. Easier than that can't be
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Béria Lima wrote:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cite4wiki/ (in wiki:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite4Wiki )
>
> right click and paste in the article. Easier than that can't be ;)
There are a lot of tools available to make the life
000
> From: dger...@gmail.com
> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment
>
> On 1 November 2011 23:39, Mateus Nobre wrote:
>
> > If the sources are so important to Wikipedia, this has to be easier to
> > newbies.
&
On 1 November 2011 23:39, Mateus Nobre wrote:
> If the sources are so important to Wikipedia, this has to be easier to
> newbies.
The essential problem is that the Wikipedia community is newbie-hostile.
Not actively - mostly - but passively. They view newbies as trouble and work.
Hence all t
t; _
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> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 04:14:28 +0200
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> On Mon, Oct 31, 201
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
wrote:
> Would it be overwhelmingly hard to program a pop-up dialogue which
> would first ask which type of source the editor is citing from, which
> would lead to a form with labeled textboxes for the
> various elements of a reference citatio
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:06 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 31 October 2011 13:01, Oliver Keyes wrote:
>
>> I imagine for the other 14.6 percent the
>> process goes something along the lines of "oh, it says I can make the
>> changes myself, lets do thaWAUGH, WHAT IN CTHULU'S NAME DOES ALL THIS TEXT
On 10/31/2011 10:09 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> Robin McCain, 31/10/2011 17:20:
>> We must also remember that the wiki edit interface and markup can be a
>> little intimidating to a newbie, so opening an edit window and making no
>> changes may be more common than we think. Are there any stat
Robin McCain, 31/10/2011 17:20:
> We must also remember that the wiki edit interface and markup can be a
> little intimidating to a newbie, so opening an edit window and making no
> changes may be more common than we think. Are there any stats on this?
Yes, it was something like 70 % of "edit" cli
On 10/31/2011 6:01 AM, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> On 31 October 2011 12:30, Oliver Keyes wrote:
>
>> > Not sure about that specific change, but one illustration might be the
>> > Article Feedback Tool, which contains a "you know you can edit, right?"
>> > thing. Off the t
hi David, what you wrote fits exactly my experience!
Today, my opinion is, that we must focus our efforts on a small portion
of Internet users. It is not that WE just do something very great,
everyone is doing something! In very different ways. Maybe even Facebook
users are doing something useful,
On 31 October 2011 12:55, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> What's the impact of changes like
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Tagline&diff=20130615&oldid=17050524
> ?
Thank you for that, that was hilarious to read through all those reversions.
On 31 October 2011 13:01, Oliver Keyes wrote:
> I imagine for the other 14.6 percent the
> process goes something along the lines of "oh, it says I can make the
> changes myself, lets do thaWAUGH, WHAT IN CTHULU'S NAME DOES ALL THIS TEXT
> MEAN"
I've been editing nearly 8 years and I get that r
2% of the 17, I believe (don't quote me on that), and yeah, saving an edit
is the metric. I think we could probably improve things by providing
guidance on markup or something; I imagine for the other 14.6 percent the
process goes something along the lines of "oh, it says I can make the
changes mys
On 31 October 2011 12:30, Oliver Keyes wrote:
> Not sure about that specific change, but one illustration might be the
> Article Feedback Tool, which contains a "you know you can edit, right?"
> thing. Off the top of my head I think 17.4 percent of the 30-40,000 people
> who use it per day attemp
Not sure about that specific change, but one illustration might be the
Article Feedback Tool, which contains a "you know you can edit, right?"
thing. Off the top of my head I think 17.4 percent of the 30-40,000 people
who use it per day attempt to edit as a result of that inducement.
Admittedly onl
David Gerard, 31/10/2011 12:59:
> On 31 October 2011 11:55, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
>
>> What's the impact of changes like
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Tagline&diff=20130615&oldid=17050524
>> ?
>> (Probably minimal, readers don't actually read our invitations to edit
On 31 October 2011 11:55, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> What's the impact of changes like
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Tagline&diff=20130615&oldid=17050524
> ?
> (Probably minimal, readers don't actually read our invitations to edit
> anyway, usually.)
Do we have knowl
David Gerard, 31/10/2011 12:29:
> I’ve been into Wikipedia for several years, and all my friends know
> this. I *still* find myself having to explain to them in small words
> that that “edit” link really does include them fixing typos when they
> see one.
>
> So my suggestion: tiny tiny steps like
I’ve been into Wikipedia for several years, and all my friends know
this. I *still* find myself having to explain to them in small words
that that “edit” link really does include them fixing typos when they
see one.
So my suggestion: tiny tiny steps like this: things people can do that
have a stro
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