Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Sarah
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 16:09, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > It's actually even worse than that. Due to the URAA, thousands of works > which are verifiably public domain in India have had their copyright > restored in the United States. For example, all of the works of Mahatma > Gandhi are public domain i

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Sorry, change everywhere I said "50" to "60". I can't keep this stuff straight :P On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > It's actually even worse than that. Due to the URAA, thousands of works > which are verifiably public domain in India have had their copyright > restored in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Ryan Kaldari
It's actually even worse than that. Due to the URAA, thousands of works which are verifiably public domain in India have had their copyright restored in the United States. For example, all of the works of Mahatma Gandhi are public domain in India (since he died over 50 years ago), however, most of

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2011/5/10 FT2 : > Why would the creator's citizenship, or the place of its creation, be > decisive?  The works of an Indian citizen are granted copyright under US law > in the United States, on a parity with the works of a US or any other > citizen, even if copyright has expired or still continues

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Wjhonson
Tue, May 10, 2011 3:37 am Subject: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India Dear All, I am forwarding the below mail on behalf of a Malayalam wikipedian who is very active in Wikimedia Commons. Of late it is becoming very difficult for many Wikimedians from India

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Andre Engels
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > In a number of years things may change, and ultimately the photo will > definitely be out of copyright wherever and whenever published though the > simple passing of time :) If the US keeps its speed of extending copyright by 20 years in 22

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Achal Prabhala
Sreejith's point is that proving the date of authorship in commonly used religious iconography is difficult; it's also difficult to work through the dates of derivatives of the 'original' work in order to establish which versions have what period - if any - of copyright validity left. For what

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Thomas Morton
Citzenship and where the photo was taken is important *IF* the work is unpublished. In this case the applicable copyright depends on these things. On the other hand, wherever it was taken and no matter who took it, if the image has been published in a jurisdiction then it is subject to copyright f

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread FT2
Why would the creator's citizenship, or the place of its creation, be decisive? The works of an Indian citizen are granted copyright under US law in the United States, on a parity with the works of a US or any other citizen, even if copyright has expired or still continues in India -- and it is US

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2011/5/10 Strainu : > 2011/5/10 Sreejith K. : >> I wonder how the citizenship of the author helps. The only thing that is of >> importance in a PD claim is the date of first publishing. > > Not really. For instance, in Europe the copyright protection runs for > 70 years from the DEATH of the author

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Sreejith K.
In India the copyright is counted from the year of its first publication. It's different for different countries. For some countries, the copyright expiry is counted from the year of death of the author. Here I was highlighting the difficulties in proving the year of publishing especially in India

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Strainu
2011/5/10 Sreejith K. : > I wonder how the citizenship of the author helps. The only thing that is of > importance in a PD claim is the date of first publishing. Not really. For instance, in Europe the copyright protection runs for 70 years from the DEATH of the author, not the first publish date.

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Sreejith K.
I wonder how the citizenship of the author helps. The only thing that is of importance in a PD claim is the date of first publishing. - Sreejith K. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:37 PM, wrote: > Welcome to the problem of Orphan Works. what you have to show is that > either of the following is true?

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread wiki-list
Welcome to the problem of Orphan Works. what you have to show is that either of the following is true? (i) the author of which is a citizen of India; or (ii) which is first published in India; or (iii) the author of which, in the case of an unpublished work, is, at the time of the making of the

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Shiju Alex
Dear All, I am forwarding the below mail on behalf of a Malayalam wikipedian who is very active in Wikimedia Commons. Of late it is becoming very difficult for many Wikimedians from India to contribute to Wikimedia Commons especially if they are uploading historical images which are in PD. We ar