This is sort of unrelated, but may be of interest to the people
discussing language issues with search:
http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2008/12/cross-language-enterprise-search.html
Google is announcing some cross language searching for enterprise now
anyway, where you might search in one la
2008/12/16 Michael Peel :
> It is still a very useful feature, though. It's a pity that you can't
> have two watchlists on en.wp, such that you can use one to keep an
> eye on articles you're particularly attached to, with the other
> handling all the rest.
I find that a useful method is to have
On 13 Dec 2008, at 14:02, Platonides wrote:
> teun spaans wrote:
>> Many times it works well.
>> But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss.
>>
>> I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a
>> correct
>> license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license,
>>
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Platonides wrote:
> teun spaans wrote:
> > Many times it works well.
> > But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss.
> >
> > I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct
> > license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the licens
Pharos wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
>> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
>>> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
>>> "pa
teun spaans wrote:
> Many times it works well.
> But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss.
>
> I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct
> license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, making a bot
> come along and warn me. By pure coincidence i
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Nikola Smolenski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
>> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
>> "paa
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
> "paard" and you will not be served in the same way as with "horse" the
> search resul
Hoi,
If you want to hear that Commons is not completely useless because people
can use a dictionary, I grant you that. However Commons is still considered
to be useless by several Wikipedias who do not promote its use. I also
consider this argument lame.
When the categories of Commons are shown in
Please don't puts words (or notions) in my mouth.
At the moment, Commons works best for you when you can read/write English.
But if you don't, you can still do simple searches using a dictionary,
and find many useful images.
This fact contradicts your earlier statement that Commons is useless
to n
Many times it works well.
But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss.
I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct
license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, making a bot
come along and warn me. By pure coincidence i happened to come along at
commo
I'd love to know how many English native speakers know what is this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rami%C4%99_urabiaj%C4%85ce_kombajnu_chodnikowego.jpg
Uncategorized, used in an article on pl.wikipedia without interwikis, and
described only in Polish. I'm guessing some sort of drill, but
Hoi,
An answer like that justifies and inforces the notion that Commons is only
for those that can read / write English. To me this is not acceptable
because it degrades Commons to less then what it should be, what it could
be.
Thanks,
GerardM
2008/12/9 Magnus Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> O
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Magnus Manske
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hoi,
>> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
>> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve th
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hoi,
> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
> "paard" and you will not be served in the same way as with "hor
Waerth wrote:
> The commons issue is not just a language issua. If it was it was
> solvable. It is a hositility issue. Where people who upload the second
> picture of the same object (like a TukTuk) get told it is not necassary
> because the project already has one picture of a TukTuk . The
The commons issue is not just a language issua. If it was it was
solvable. It is a hositility issue. Where people who upload the second
picture of the same object (like a TukTuk) get told it is not necassary
because the project already has one picture of a TukTuk . The
problem is that the c
Hoi,
When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why
they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find
"paard" and you will not be served in the same way as with "horse" the
search result is inferior. Dutch is not the worst option, try "ίππος" and
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Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> Commons provides no benefit except for sharing the same picture to people
> who do not read / write English. They cannot possibly find pictures and
> consequently for them Commons is useless.
That's simply ridiculous.
Hoi,
I would prefer work done on the usability of Commons. Not solving the issues
means that we will never get a repository of images that because of its
composition offers a non biased view of the world. Once people who do not
speak English share in the benefits of Commons and are able to find im
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hoi,
> Commons provides no benefit except for sharing the same picture to people
> who do not read / write English. They cannot possibly find pictures and
> consequently for them Commons is useless. Add to this the extreme
Hoi,
Commons provides no benefit except for sharing the same picture to people
who do not read / write English. They cannot possibly find pictures and
consequently for them Commons is useless. Add to this the extreme loads of
work of the Commons admins resulting in an unfriendly attitude towards
pe
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I speak as a big fan of and participant in Wikimedia Commons.
>
> But: Is it time to deprecate Commons as a WMF service project? It's
> clearly failing and the local "community" is actively hostile to
> contributors from othe
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:48:57 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less
> frightening
>
> on 12/6/08 4:10 PM, David Gerard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
on 12/6/08 4:10 PM, David Gerard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2008/12/6 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>> Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.)
>
>> If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the
>> discussion to only people that ag
on 12/6/08 4:04 PM, Thomas Dalton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.)
>
> If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the
> discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any
> useful results tha
ct: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less
frightening
> Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.)
If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the
discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any
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I speak as a big fan of and participant in Wikimedia Commons.
But: Is it time to deprecate Commons as
2008/12/6 David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/12/6 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>> Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.)
>
>> If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the
>> discussion to only people that agree with you. You wo
2008/12/6 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.)
> If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the
> discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any
> useful results that way.
Are you sp
> Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.)
If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the
discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any
useful results that way.
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I speak as a big fan of and participant in Wikimedia Commons.
But: Is it time to deprecate Commons as a WMF service project? It's
clearly failing and the local "community" is actively hostile to
contributors from other wikis.
Commons appears to have forgotten it was created as a service project
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