Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-07 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/05/2011 10:59 AM, David Gerard wrote: > We really do underspend horribly in the tech area, compared to what we > need. That $14-16m from the fundraiser could be gobbled up in a > moment. In my day job, I work for a tiny, tiny publisher with an > approximately negligible web presence; two sysa

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:22 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride wrote: >>> Another example might be an UploadWizard that is focused on >>> ensuring that Wikimedia fulfills its Multimedia grant requirements rather >>> than actually being fully developed a

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread Michael Snow
On 4/5/2011 2:37 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Classic is largely unmaintained, since no-one seems to want to bother > to maintain it. To coin a phrase, Monobook is the new Classic. Maybe we should rename Classic to Legacy? That might communicate the implications a bit better to anyone considering it

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 April 2011 22:20, geni wrote: > On 5 April 2011 09:40, David Gerard wrote: >> Article rating has been a wanted feature for *years*. >> What I'd like to see is article rating being more widespread. But >> having a grant push it through is *just fine*, because it gets it done >> at all. > ex

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread geni
On 5 April 2011 09:40, David Gerard wrote: > *cough* From 2005: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Gerard/1.0 > > Magnus put together a quick version, but Brion didn't like the code > and it never happened. However, mine is just one such proposal. > Article rating has been a wanted featur

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/4/5 David Gerard : > What I see is grants supplying money to get initiatives that have been > long-wanted happening. The near-impossibility of getting even quite > simple things through a bureaucratic kudzu-choked community process > has been noted on this list *many* times. To clarify, the A

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: > On 5 April 2011 09:48, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> 2011/4/5 David Gerard > >>> Article rating has been a wanted feature for *years*. > >> ... And in the Hungarian Wikipedia it was even implemented quite a >> long time ago. If i recall correctly, at some point i saw it in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: > On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride wrote: >> Another example might be an UploadWizard that is focused on >> ensuring that Wikimedia fulfills its Multimedia grant requirements rather >> than actually being fully developed and ready for use by Wikimedia Commons. >> These examples

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 April 2011 09:48, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2011/4/5 David Gerard >> Article rating has been a wanted feature for *years*. > ... And in the Hungarian Wikipedia it was even implemented quite a > long time ago. If i recall correctly, at some point i saw it in the > Polish, too. I didn't kno

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride wrote: > Another example might be an UploadWizard that is focused on > ensuring that Wikimedia fulfills its Multimedia grant requirements rather > than actually being fully developed and ready for use by Wikimedia Commons. > These examples are off the top of my he

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/5 David Gerard > > On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride wrote: > > > A lot of the projects that Wikimedia is investing in today are small and > > focused on particular needs of the Wikimedia Foundation, not the Wikimedia > > community. One example might be an article feedback tool that's large

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride wrote: > A lot of the projects that Wikimedia is investing in today are small and > focused on particular needs of the Wikimedia Foundation, not the Wikimedia > community. One example might be an article feedback tool that's largely > focused on ensuring that Wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-04 Thread MZMcBride
Jan Kucera (Kozuch) wrote: > why is the Foundation so passive??? I have been since almost 5 years with > various Wikimedia projects and I can really see NO PROGRESS from the side of > the Foundation but more employees, 2 new blogs, new Vector skin and maybe > MediaWiki performance tweaks. My partic

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-03-21 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 18/03/11 23:28, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) wrote: > Hi there, > > why is the Foundation so passive??? I have been since almost 5 years > with various Wikimedia projects and I can really see NO PROGRESS from > the side of the Foundation but more employees, 2 new blogs, new > Vector skin and maybe MediaW

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-03-18 Thread The Mono
Yes, you're right. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) wrote: > Hi there, > > why is the Foundation so passive??? I have been since almost 5 years with > various Wikimedia projects and I can really see NO PROGRESS from the side of > the Foundation but more employees, 2 new blogs

[Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-03-18 Thread Kozuch
Hi there, why is the Foundation so passive??? I have been since almost 5 years with various Wikimedia projects and I can really see NO PROGRESS from the side of the Foundation but more employees, 2 new blogs, new Vector skin and maybe MediaWiki performance tweaks. My participation declined radi