Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-31 Thread 오현성
> > > When you type in the Korean script, > [...] > > The vast majority of people do not know how to do this. > > What does a korean end user do now, when s/he wants to see a webpage? > They cannot type any URL, right? I wonder. > The Korean keyboard is really just a modified Qwerty keyboard, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-31 Thread Peter Gervai
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 16:56, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > So you want to have a comparison. No. I have offered experience. > When you type in the Korean script, [...] > The vast majority of people do not know how to do this. What does a korean end user do now, when s/he wants to see a webpage? Th

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So you want to have a comparison. When you type in the Korean script, you have to change your keyboard in order to be able to type a URL. Alternatively for the advanced users, you know the codes for the characters that are the suffix for a domain. The vast majority of people do not know how t

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-31 Thread Peter Gervai
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 08:02, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > The Hungarian Wikipedia is written in the Latin script I'm kind of guessed that. :-] > so the experience cannot be compared. It is not the same, but indeed they can be compared. Straight denial doesn't always helpful. And no need to debat

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-31 Thread Marcus Buck
Do you need to register domains under these new internationalised TLDs? To me it seems to be the obvious solution, that the internationalised TLDs will be aliases to the existing ones. So wikipedia.cn and 维基百科. c?n? will point to the same target. That's how I would solve it and I really see no

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The BBC article I referred to explained the benefits; the usability is much improved. It is nasty to have to switch to another keyboard whenever a URL is to be typed. When you consider that half the world population does not use the Latin script for their language, the benefit should be obviou

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Hungarian Wikipedia is written in the Latin script so the experience cannot be compared. Thanks, GerardM 2009/10/31 Peter Gervai > By the way Hungary supports accented domains for some years now and > the experience shows that they are not used at all. Penetration is so > low that

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-30 Thread Peter Gervai
By the way Hungary supports accented domains for some years now and the experience shows that they are not used at all. Penetration is so low that I couldn't even tell you one to test. (We have, for example http://wikipédia.hu/, but it's rather a test than a real usage.) Apart from that Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-30 Thread Samuel Klein
I see. So you'd like to see double the number of site registrations; in this case adding 维基百科.o?r?g? to zh.wikipedia.org That strikes me as a significant expense for uncertain result; but it would make a good strategy proposal -- especially if you can find users from ar, zh, ru, and indic-la

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In your question the key thing to appreciate is that it is the .org part that does not need to be in the Latin script any more. What I propose is that we support the whole "wikipedia.org" part and "wiktionary.org" part once in each script. What the word is for Wikipedia is not my call. This

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-30 Thread Samuel Klein
Gerard, I don't think we currently register wikipedia.cn or 维基百科.cnor 维基百科.org . When the new ICANN policies are in place, as I understand it, there will be four new domains possible: wikipedia.c?n

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-30 Thread Chad
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The news is that you do not need the .org part anymore in the Latin script. > You mention that you do not know if it will be popular ... this is the kind > of thing that will slowly grow and then mushroom. Where you indicate that > d

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The news is that you do not need the .org part anymore in the Latin script. You mention that you do not know if it will be popular ... this is the kind of thing that will slowly grow and then mushroom. Where you indicate that domain names are squatted, there are procedures to gain those names.

Re: [Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-30 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Gerard Meijssen wrote: > According to an article on the BBC website, it is now possible to have a URL > that is completely in the script used for a language. This means that a > Russian URL would be completely in the Cyrillic script and it would not need > to end with .org. > > I would like the Wi

[Foundation-l] Font support for our domains

2009-10-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, According to an article on the BBC website, it is now possible to have a URL that is completely in the script used for a language. This means that a Russian URL would be completely in the Cyrillic script and it would not need to end with .org. I would like the Wikimedia Foundation to get the