On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:48 AM, church.of.emacs.ml
wrote:
> Are there any devs on your proposal? Or is development planned in this
> area? (If these are two noes, it might be an idea for WMDE's community
> project budget)
I hope we can get some of the annoy-me-not stuff with CentralNotice
fixed
On 05/21/2011 02:12 AM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> It's clear that there's a need for community broadcasting tools that
> allow for a degree of personal flexibility, whether it's by means of
> subscription or otherwise.
I agree, this would fix almost all problem instantly. Although it does
not replace
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml
wrote:
> There are several ways of minimizing negative effects:
> 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for
> information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc.
> 2. Reduce weight - don't display a b
Hi Tobias,
thank you for bringing this up. The thought had crossed my mind too.
I'm glad that the election banner seems to appear only when logged in - it
is absolutely useless for people who only read articles, even for only 3
days.
More annoying was the POTY competition - this type of cross wi
Hello Tobias,
on zh-wp we use our local central notice quite often and in my opinion
it is accepted by most users. We use it to announce admin election, vote
for policies and other issues like quality initiatives or call for
articles. Most of these activities are on village pump, but most users
Steven Walling wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Theo10011 wrote:
>> Also, we need a page on Meta where any future requests could be placed and
>> voted on, the current logging page for central notice could eventually be
>> replaced with it.
>
> Just speaking for myself, I think voting t
On 05/19/2011 07:13 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Until most recently, it
>> has been displayed on every single page view for most of our 400 Million
>> readers or so, according to the setup for 20 days
>>
>
>
> F
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Theo10011 wrote:
> Also, we need a page on Meta where any future requests could be placed and
> voted on, the current logging page for central notice could eventually be
> replaced with it.
>
Just speaking for myself, I think voting to pre-approve every
non-fund
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> > Factually incorrect: it displayed to every reader for only 3 days. It
> then
> > switched (as was always planned) to logged in users only.
>
> Planned where and by whom?
>
> MZMcBride
>
The Board Elections committ
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:11 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Theo10011 wrote:
> > Currently, there are no clear guidelines on the community's use of
> > central-notice - multiple geo-located, chapter-requested campaigns have
> been
> > running on central-notice without objection. Global-banners have been
Theo10011 wrote:
> Currently, there are no clear guidelines on the community's use of
> central-notice - multiple geo-located, chapter-requested campaigns have been
> running on central-notice without objection. Global-banners have been used
> for things like the March/May update and for soliciting
Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Until most recently, it
>> has been displayed on every single page view for most of our 400 Million
>> readers or so, according to the setup for 20 days
>
> Factually incorrect: it displayed
That would be great :) I did have a look when researching for the board
elections but couldn't find any hard figures.
Tom/ErrantX
On 19 May 2011 18:15, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Thomas Morton <
> morton.tho...@googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > It could well be
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Thomas Morton wrote:
> It could well be that an image banner does improve
> click through and (in the case of the fund raiser) donations... but I can't
> find any actual A/B tests (or any other tests) to see if this is actually
> the case or not.
>
It does. We
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
> Until most recently, it
> has been displayed on every single page view for most of our 400 Million
> readers or so, according to the setup for 20 days
>
Factually incorrect: it displayed to every reader for only 3 days. It then
switc
On 05/19/2011 05:59 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote:
> A better alternative, in my opinion, would be editor-facing pages such as
> watchlists, noticeboards, etc.
Feature already exists, via Javascript:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/watchlist.js
Perhaps make it a core feature of Centra
I asked Mono to announce POTY centralnotice use on Foundation-l after he
made a request on Meta. The only consensus to MZ's RfC on Meta [1] was that
Global banners could be used for Non-fundraising reasons after consensus is
achieved for the proposal and the banner itself on Meta first.
Currently,
The POTY banner was announced on this list with no objections.
On Thursday, May 19, 2011, church.of.emacs.ml
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed
> there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board
> elections and comm
Its become so obnoxious I have used Ad-block plus's rules to prevent it from
loading, because I got sick if having half my screen taken over with
obnoxious banners that I really dont like seeing, Watchlist notices given
their low intrusion levels work a lot better.
John
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On 05/19/2011 05:42 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote:
> > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Milos Rancic
> wrote:
> >> On 05/19/2011 10:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
> >>> 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for
> >
Hello,
When we have a POTY contest or board elections, that is certainly not
very exciting for non Wikimedians. But when the picture of the year is
actually chosen? And when the WMF publishes an annual report written
for the public?
We had the problem with the site notice on nl.wp recently when w
On 05/19/2011 05:42 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> On 05/19/2011 10:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
>>> 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for
>>> information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY,
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On 05/19/2011 10:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
> > 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for
> > information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc.
>
> Agreed with this in relation to the Boa
On 05/19/2011 10:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
> 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for
> information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc.
Agreed with this in relation to the Board elections. Just users with
accounts are able to vote or to be
Orionist wrote:
> I thought these notices *are* displayed for logged-in users only, if they
> aren't, then they should. At least the POTY notice doesn't show up for me
> when I'm logged out.
It would also help if certain votes/etc. could be targeted to only eligible
voters. For example, if a vote
Thomas Morton, 19/05/2011 12:50:
> Also; Part of the problem is how it loads (i.e. as pointed out elsewhere the
> page can "jump" as the notice suddenly appears). If that could be fixed that
> would be one of my main concerns addressed :)
By the way, it's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cg
I think using images for the POTY competition is also justifiable, :) given
the context. But, yes, images need to be considered carefully.
As I recently mentioned on Meta - we could really do with some reasearch
into the effectiveness of different sized images as compared to text for
click through
I thought these notices *are* displayed for logged-in users only, if they
aren't, then they should. At least the POTY notice doesn't show up for me
when I'm logged out.
I agree with you in regards to the use of images, and I think it should be
constrained to fundraising banners. "Size and intrusiv
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:56 PM, K. Peachey wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:52 PM, church.of.emacs.ml
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed
>> there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board
>> elections and com
A way to tie clicking "hide" to an *account* rather than just by storing it
as a local cookie would also be a good move.
Tom / ErrantX
On 19 May 2011 10:36, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> church.of.emacs.ml, 19/05/2011 10:52:
> > There are several ways of minimizing negative effects:
> > 1. Disp
church.of.emacs.ml, 19/05/2011 10:52:
> There are several ways of minimizing negative effects:
> 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for
> information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc.
> 2. Reduce weight - don't display a banner on every page vi
Thanks for bringing this up, Tobias. I have been pondering about the same,
and the thinking points you give sound sensible. I would like to add
another, which might seem obvious, and that is geo- and project targeting.
Do you really need centralnotice on all projects, or only on a few.
Because of
2011/5/19 church.of.emacs.ml :
> 2. Reduce weight - don't display a banner on every page view, but only
> on one in ten. (We have to use blank banners to do that, right?[3])
> 3. Reduce duration. (e.g. Don't display banners for a month, only a week)
I think such measures would bring more complain
2011/5/19 church.of.emacs.ml
>
> Hi all,
>
> Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed
> there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board
> elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to
> the audience.
... And since you
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:52 PM, church.of.emacs.ml
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed
> there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board
> elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to
> the a
Hi all,
Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed
there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board
elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to
the audience.
Take for example one of the most recent banners about candid
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