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>
> - "John at Darkstar" wrote:
>> From: "John at Darkstar"
>> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
>> Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 20:38:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
>> Portugal
>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A
: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> >> Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 20:38:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
> >> Portugal
> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and
> >> systems
> >>
> >>
e:
> From: "John at Darkstar"
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 20:38:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
> Portugal
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and
> systems
>
> This
This is a wikipedian from Norway.
John Erling Blad
Wikimedia Norway
Chad wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe
> Beaudette wrote:
>> On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org?
>>>
>>> That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :)
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe
Beaudette wrote:
>
> On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org?
>>
>> That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :)
>>
>> -Chad
>
>
>
> (Asked whois.pir.org:43 about enwp.org)
>
> Domain ID: D148943548-L
On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote:
> Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org?
>
> That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :)
>
> -Chad
(Asked whois.pir.org:43 about enwp.org)
Domain ID: D148943548-LROR
Domain Name: ENWP.ORG
Created On: 23-Aug-2007 14: 33: 18 UTC
Last
I control enwn.net. We just set it up primarily for our Twitter feed. That
being said, I've already had requests to make it available for external
users - so that's in progress, and I can expand it to allow all WMF sites
(not just wn).
Otherwise it does support short redirects for CurID. Exampl
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Andrew Gray wrote:
> 2009/7/17 Harald Krichel :
>
>> Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
>> This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
>> wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains.
>>
>> eg.:
>> http://wp.cx/3tT5u7
2009/7/17 Harald Krichel :
> Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
> This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
> wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains.
>
> eg.:
> http://wp.cx/3tT5u7Z
> redirects to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:14 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/7/17 Harald Krichel :
>
>> Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
>> This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
>> wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains.
>
>
> I know of:
>
> http://enwp
2009/7/17 Harald Krichel :
> Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
> This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
> wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains.
I know of:
http://enwp.org/
http://enwn.net/
- d.
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Over at Wikinews, we've just started using a new url shortening
service-enwn.net for our twitter feed. You'll need to talk to
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:ShakataGaNai if interested.
On 17/07/2009 14:06, Chad wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Harald
> Krichel wrote:
>
>> Peter
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Harald
Krichel wrote:
> Peter Gervai schrieb:
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstar wrote:
>>
>>> Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
>>> would be
>>> "
>>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
>>> http://crea
Peter Gervai schrieb:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstar wrote:
>
>> Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
>> would be
>> "
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/";
>>
>> That is 96 chars,
2009/7/4 Peter Gervai :
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 21:45, John at Darkstar wrote:
>> There is a solution, and it is rather puzzling. The license talks about
>> identification by an URI, and this can be defined several ways. We can
>> simply define an URI like "Wikipedia:My article" or perhaps "cc:nn
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 21:45, John at Darkstar wrote:
> There is a solution, and it is rather puzzling. The license talks about
> identification by an URI, and this can be defined several ways. We can
> simply define an URI like "Wikipedia:My article" or perhaps "cc:nn"
Not very much differen
There is a solution, and it is rather puzzling. The license talks about
identification by an URI, and this can be defined several ways. We can
simply define an URI like "Wikipedia:My article" or perhaps "cc:nn"
where the last is some kind of digital resource identifier for works
licensed by Cre
I know it is even worse for some other languages, but I don't think it
is very interesting to calculate exact numbers for a couple of hundred
languages. The most typical worse case for a SMS is 70 two byte chars.
John
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> Did you consider what this does in other script
A url for a medium without a clickable link is, well, not an optimum
solution. Obfuscated url isn't really any better, but it might be shorter.
John
Peter Gervai wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstar wrote:
>> Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstar wrote:
> Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
> would be
> "
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/";
>
> That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes available
Hoi,
Did you consider what this does in other scripts ... the notion that it is a
small number of characters is based on the notion that the script will be
the Latin script.. Other scripts tend to show as the Unicode numbers..
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/7/3 Brian
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Brian wrote:
> I actually was not aware that the terms now ask you to link not only to the
> article, but to the license as well. That is a burden.
Linking to the license (or providing it's actual text) is an explicit
requirement of CC-BY-SA.
-Robert Rohde
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Brian wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John at Darkstar wrote:
>
>> Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
>> would be
>> "
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John at Darkstar wrote:
> Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
> would be
> "
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/";
>
> That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes avail
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
would be
"
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/";
That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes available in a SMS. For some
languages the attribution will take more than o
It seems like the attribution scheme chosen does not support small
interactive devices and systems very Well. Are there anyone who have
given this any thoughts?
The problem is basically as the chunk of information shrinks the
attribution scheme will be more and more of a problem. With the current
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