Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Jacobi
I want to add another aspect, which makes Alphacript a PITA: Their arbitrary selection of author names. From all those contributors of all articles included in their (usually incompetently compiled) selection, they just pick the "best sounding", i.e. realnamish, on the front and into the amazon sy

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-18 Thread Joshua Gay
This won't work. The problem is that these books are not being clearly marketed as printed Wikipedia articles. So, marketing your books as up to date printed versions of Wikipedia articles isn't going to be competing with these books. I recommend doing a positive campaign where you encourage peopl

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-17 Thread Ray Saintonge
Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > The single best way to kill them is to reprint the exact same books, then > sell them at the low low price of cost + 10%. When people start snapping them > up like fruitcakes, Alphascript will be finished. > > > > Not just the same books, but the same books corrected

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-17 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > The single best way to kill them is to reprint the exact same books, then > sell them at the low low price of cost + 10%. When people start snapping them > up like fruitcakes, Alphascript will be finished. > > From looking at only two books published by Alphascript

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-17 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
List Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:08:55 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia 2009/8/17 Jay Litwyn : > Maybe there should be a [[:category:printed articles]]. It should ignore > personal and educational use with a note at the

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Coombe
2009/8/17 Jay Litwyn : > Maybe there should be a [[:category:printed articles]]. It should ignore > personal and educational use with a note at the top saying "Alphascript > Publishing used this article in whole or major part for a commercial > printing of Wikipedia.". It would be nice of them to c

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-16 Thread Jay Litwyn
Maybe there should be a [[:category:printed articles]]. It should ignore personal and educational use with a note at the top saying "Alphascript Publishing used this article in whole or major part for a commercial printing of Wikipedia.". It would be nice of them to create the category and make

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread Renata St
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/8/14 Renata St : > > >> > Inside the book -- yes, plenty of indication about copying. But > nothing > >> to > >> > warn you before you buy. People are buying these books tricked into > >> thinking > >> > it's an original content. > > >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/14 Renata St : >> > Inside the book -- yes, plenty of indication about copying. But nothing >> to >> > warn you before you buy. People are buying these books tricked into >> thinking >> > it's an original content. >> Yuh. Point it out in reviews etc. > Exactly, except that there are 2000

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread Renata St
> > >> As long as the books give sufficient indication that they are from > >> Wikipedia, ... > > > Inside the book -- yes, plenty of indication about copying. But nothing > to > > warn you before you buy. People are buying these books tricked into > thinking > > it's an original content. > > Yuh.

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread Renata St
> > Another alternative might be for Wikimedians to put together a company > that would sell similar books to the public at cost, perhaps on a print > on demand basis so as to get the latest versions. Article selection > might be the same, and they could even use identical titles for each > book,

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/14 Renata St : >> As long as the books give sufficient indication that they are from >> Wikipedia, ... > Inside the book -- yes, plenty of indication about copying. But nothing to > warn you before you buy. People are buying these books tricked into thinking > it's an original content. Y

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread Renata St
> > As long as the books give sufficient indication that they are from > Wikipedia, ... Inside the book -- yes, plenty of indication about copying. But nothing to warn you before you buy. People are buying these books tricked into thinking it's an original content. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/13 David Goodman : > I would be exceedingly uncomfortable with us organizing a negative > campaign against any publisher not actually violating our copyright. > .  A factual campaign, providing information is another matter. It > would be entirely appropriate for individuals, even in a some

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As long as the books give sufficient indication that they are from Wikipedia, as long as the license requirement is met, this gentlemen is welcome to ask as much as people are willing to pay. If anything this is EXACTLY something that we can do as well. The German Verein did a good job a few y

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > I don't know if they commonly do it but at least at > http://amazon.decenturl.com/amazon.com-prehistoric-europe they openly > say it's from Wikipedia. > And still by reading that review you get the impression that they're building upon w

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-13 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Renata St wrote: > They "deceive" potential buyers into thinking it's an original book/content > without disclosing that it's just a copy from Wikipedia. There are > disclaimers inside the book -- but that comes only after opening the wallet. > Someone should put it up front. I don't know if they

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-13 Thread Ray Saintonge
David Goodman wrote: > I would be exceedingly uncomfortable with us organizing a negative > campaign against any publisher not actually violating our copyright. > . A factual campaign, providing information is another matter. It > would be entirely appropriate for individuals, even in a somewhat >

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-13 Thread Renata St
That was kinda my point. They "deceive" potential buyers into thinking it's an original book/content without disclosing that it's just a copy from Wikipedia. There are disclaimers inside the book -- but that comes only after opening the wallet. Someone should put it up front. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-13 Thread David Goodman
I would be exceedingly uncomfortable with us organizing a negative campaign against any publisher not actually violating our copyright. . A factual campaign, providing information is another matter. It would be entirely appropriate for individuals, even in a somewhat coordinated way, to add a revi

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-13 Thread Joshua Gay
When I worked for the FSF I helped to run a campaign against the Amazon Kindle (and, DRM in general). We did an action called "The Kindle Swindle" in which we asked people to tag all DRM ebooks and the kindle itself with the tags "kindle swindle" and "DRM". People went ahead and tagged close to a

[Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-13 Thread Renata St
It was raised before on the Village Pump, but I think this is so disturbing that we ought to do something. "Alphascript Publishing" has published over 1900 (and counting) books, all available on Amazon. Prices range from $31 to $179. All of these books are simple computer-generated copies from Wik