Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

Behavior on many projects IS outrageous; when someone complains the response is almost universally that the foundation doesn't get involved in local project business. Mark skype: node.ue On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: >> Marc, you comment

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > Marc, you comment is not very optimistic, but it was a great > incentive to do what I announced above. Hopefully others will be more > encouraged to voice their ideas about other matters, knowing they'll > find a friendly hear and some useful and very welcome feed

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

Steven Walling wrote: > 1. You're wrong. Just today I myself received some kind words offlist, but > related to a thread. Just because you're not getting the air of friendliness > you desire (at this moment anyway), doesn't mean friendliness doesn't exist. > Getting friendly words offlist, says

[Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Thanks for the comments from Marc, Nathan and Steven. I'm hurrying this response in an attempt to keep the subject alive for a little longer and generate some interest from others. Marc, you comment is not very optimistic, but it was a great incenti

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

1. You're wrong. Just today I myself received some kind words offlist, but related to a thread. Just because you're not getting the air of friendliness you desire (at this moment anyway), doesn't mean friendliness doesn't exist. 2. It's a mailing list for discussion and debate, not an outlet for p

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

The most significant problem, Virgilio, is that there isn't too much people on this list can do. Unless and until problems become so clear that steward or Foundation action are obviously called for, there is unlikely to be much concrete action at all. Since we can't impose a solution to the problem

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

on 6/29/09 8:35 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado at v...@fct.unl.pt wrote: > Talking about antisocial... It's quite interesting what I experienced > in this very list. > > I wasn't aware of the study published in the New Scientist until I > read about it here on the list, and appreciate the information

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Is this blog syndicated on either of the two ? That would be the obvious > thing to get it read :) > Thanks, >     GerardM Yes, the blog is syndicated on both open.wikiblogplanet.com and en.planet.wikimedia.org. The blog basically s

[Foundation-l] "antisocial production" & pt:wiki policies

Talking about antisocial... It's quite interesting what I experienced in this very list. I wasn't aware of the study published in the New Scientist until I read about it here on the list, and appreciate the information very much. Earlier this month I wrote about my perception of the same inadeq

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Hoi, Is this blog syndicated on either of the two ? That would be the obvious thing to get it read :) Thanks, GerardM 2009/6/29 phoebe ayers > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Gerard > Meijssen wrote: > > Hoi, > > The signpost is something of the English Wikipedia. I do not frequent > there

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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The signpost is something of the English Wikipedia. I do not frequent there. > Also you are wrong on principles when you expect people of this list to give > the English Wikipedia all their attention. This is after all the foundation

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Hoi, The signpost is something of the English Wikipedia. I do not frequent there. Also you are wrong on principles when you expect people of this list to give the English Wikipedia all their attention. This is after all the foundation list. Thanks. GerardMM 2009/6/29 Ray Saintonge > Tisza G

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

Fred Bauder wrote: >> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social >> production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the >> character >> traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research >> psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipe

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

Tisza Gergő wrote: > Eddie Tejeda writes: > > it, > >> Wikipedians are generally "grumpy," "disagreeable," and "closed to new >> ideas."' >> http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2009/06/the_

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Eddie Tejeda writes: > 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social > production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character > traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research > psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

> Marc Riddell wrote: >>> on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: >>> While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. DM >>> >>

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You can find the original study at: http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1089/cpb.2007.0225?cookieSet=1 apparently they used a pre-existing questionairre called the BFI Questionnaire (probably stands for Big Five Inv

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2009/6/27 Phil Nash : > 1. Small sample, making statistical significance difficult to assess It's big enough to get some results. The ones across gender lines are more questionable. > 3. If the questionnaire isn't published, it's incapable of independent > analysis for bias in the questions aske

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> >>> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online >>> social >>> production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the >>> character >>> traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research >>> psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians an

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

> on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia >> picnic to >> break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty >> accurate to me. >> >> DM > > And, until that changes, the Project wi

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Eddie Tejeda wrote: >> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social >> production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the >> character >> traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research >> psychologist

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Eddie Tejeda wrote: > 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social > production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character > traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research > psychologists gave pe

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

Marc Riddell wrote: >> on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia >>> picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the >>> conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. >>> >>> DM >> >> And, until th

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: > While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to > break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty > accurate to me. > > DM And, until that changes, the Project will grow only

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. DM On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > I concur with Phil. That thing is more press stunt than it is a conclu

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I concur with Phil. That thing is more press stunt than it is a conclusive scientific study. The key thing that makes me discount it is, just like in a survey of articles, Wikipedia as a community is both gargantuan and diverse. The motivation and character of the long tail of contributors who stea

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

>> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social >> production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the >> character >> traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research >> psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70 >> no

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

Eddie Tejeda wrote: >> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online >> social production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of >> the character traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of >> Israeli research psychologists gave personality tests to 69 >> Wikip

Re: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

> 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social > production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the > character > traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research > psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70 > non-Wikip

[Foundation-l] "antisocial production"

'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70 non-Wikipedians. They