On 18 June 2010 08:53, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>> The "original" original of the concept itself is of course
>> "The Flight of the Bumblebee", with a related concept
>> being the centipede losing track of it's legs, when it
>> begins trying to "think through" wh
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> The "original" original of the concept itself is of course
> "The Flight of the Bumblebee", with a related concept
> being the centipede losing track of it's legs, when it
> begins trying to "think through" what it is doing with
> them.
>
The concept of "Information
Ryan Lomonaco wrote:
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> Date: Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..."
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On Thursday, June 17, 2010, phoebe ayers wrote:
> Actual
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:51 AM, wrote:
> Thank you all! Very helpful. I'll attribute it to Gareth, and note that it's
> passed into widespread use.
"The popular observation is that Wikipedia only works in practice. In
theory, it can never work."
Sheizaf Rafaeli and Yaron Ariel, "Online Motiva
Platonides wrote:
> geni wrote:
>
>> Well I can search wikipedia-en-l as far back as 13.09.04 and I'm not
>> coming up with anything. Running google searches for mentions pre 2006
>> doesn't turn up anything however use explodes in 2006 which is rather
>> fast if than jan 2006 use is the first.
Pharos wrote:
> This is the best source of the "zeroth law" of Wikipedia:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/Raul%27s_laws#Laws_by_others
>
> I believe people have tried to track down the original coiner, but
> noone really knows.
>
>
>
The "original" original of the concept itself i
ubject: Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..."
On Thursday, June 17, 2010, phoebe ayers wrote:
> Actually, the other way around, as others have stated.
>
> Now that you mention it, I've seen that quote attributed to Gareth
> Owen before, so that may actually be the
geni wrote:
> Well I can search wikipedia-en-l as far back as 13.09.04 and I'm not
> coming up with anything. Running google searches for mentions pre 2006
> doesn't turn up anything however use explodes in 2006 which is rather
> fast if than jan 2006 use is the first.
I grepped for it in foundati
Ha. Yes, of course :-)
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From: Dan Rosenthal
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:07:59
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..."
Isn't the quote backwards? "The problem with Wikipedia is that it only wo
Hello,
I could imagine that such a statement, in a different form, comes
originally from socialist or anti-socialist circles.
By the way, I am not such a big fan of this seemingly witty remark. If
there is a conflict between theory and practice, that means that your
theory is bad and has to be ad
On 17 June 2010 21:37, phoebe ayers wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>> Here's the phrase in a 1988 sociology paper:
>>
>> http://jpart.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1/19
>>
>> I'd call it a pretty obvious play on words, though, so I really doubt
>> we got it f
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> Yes, it's communism that works in theory but not in practice. :-)
But isn't Wikipedia Communism?
It must be true, I saw it written so on Wikipedia! :D
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM, phoebe ayers wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>> Here's the phrase in a 1988 sociology paper:
>>
>> http://jpart.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1/19
>>
>> I'd call it a pretty obvious play on words, though, so I really doubt
>> w
On 17 June 2010 21:14, Michael Snow wrote:
> Dan Rosenthal wrote:
>> Isn't the quote backwards? "The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works
>> in practice. It could never work in theory"?
>>
> It can be formulated various ways. Raul's Laws has yet another variation:
> http://en.wikipedia.or
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> Here's the phrase in a 1988 sociology paper:
>
> http://jpart.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1/19
>
> I'd call it a pretty obvious play on words, though, so I really doubt
> we got it from that.
>
> Anyone got a complete wikien-l archive
Here's the phrase in a 1988 sociology paper:
http://jpart.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1/19
I'd call it a pretty obvious play on words, though, so I really doubt
we got it from that.
Anyone got a complete wikien-l archive to grovel through?
- d.
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Dan Rosenthal wrote:
> Isn't the quote backwards? "The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works
> in practice. It could never work in theory"?
>
It can be formulated various ways. Raul's Laws has yet another variation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/Raul%27s_laws
I'd note that i
On 17 June 2010 21:07, Dan Rosenthal wrote:
> Isn't the quote backwards? "The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works
> in practice. It could never work in theory"?
I vaguely remember it on wikien-l many years ago. I have no idea if
that was its first use.
- d.
This is the best source of the "zeroth law" of Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/Raul%27s_laws#Laws_by_others
I believe people have tried to track down the original coiner, but
noone really knows.
Thanks,
Pharos
2010/6/17 Jon Harald Søby :
> Yes, it's communism that works in
Yes, it's communism that works in theory but not in practice. :-)
2010/6/17 Dan Rosenthal
> Isn't the quote backwards? "The problem with Wikipedia is that it only
> works in practice. It could never work in theory"?
>
> -Dan
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
>
> > "The problem wi
Isn't the quote backwards? "The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in
practice. It could never work in theory"?
-Dan
On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
> "The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in theory. It could
> never work in practice."
>
> I've seen that qu
"The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in theory. It could
never work in practice."
I've seen that quote attributed to Jimmy, and also to Miikka Ryokas,
quoted by Noam Cohen in his NY Times story about Virginia Tech. But
neither of them, I think, originated it.
Does anyone have a good
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