Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department & Promotion of Philippe Beaudette

2012-02-10 Thread Pronoein
The name is misleading and confusing as best. This very conversation proves it. In consequence, the naming is bad. "On behalf of the community", but do you have even community approval? I'd like to read the strategical report of your consulting firm about this move, just to know on what predictions

Re: [Foundation-l] Resolution:Developing Scenarios for future of fundraising

2012-01-18 Thread Pronoein
Le 18/01/2012 10:14, Alec Meta a écrit : >> Why does the Board of Trustees think that WMF should raise the «maximum >> possible amount of money»? >> Why not ask for what is needed and nothing more? > Because we don't expect to be JUST Wikipedia forever. We have a lot > of innovation ahead of us.

Re: [Foundation-l] Resolution:Developing Scenarios for future of fundraising

2012-01-18 Thread Pronoein
Le 18/01/2012 05:25, Ting Chen a écrit : > Hello dear community, > > the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation passed the following > resolution with seven approves and three abstains: > > > [...] > * Minimal cost and minimal disruption. All Wikimedia fundraising > activities must aim to

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Pronoein
Le 31/12/2011 15:03, Thomas Dalton a écrit : > Being honest when raising funds in incredibly important. Probably a misunderstanding. People getting paid to raise money who only care about getting money, that's the kind of professionals we need. Putting them in charge of communication and money re

Re: [Foundation-l] No rights to participate

2011-05-22 Thread Pronoein
e no right to do that" is incorrect, because WP is a private website. > > If the consensus of the community is to ban you from the project, even under > spurious grounds, there is nothing to stop them from doing so. > > Tom > > On 22 May 2011 16:19, Pronoein wr

[Foundation-l] No rights to participate

2011-05-22 Thread Pronoein
Le 22/05/2011 10:54, Thomas Morton a écrit : > we have no > "rights" to participate in Wikipedia. Regardless of the debate from where it comes, is this an accurate decription of the rules and policies of Wikipedia? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector, a year after

2011-04-05 Thread Pronoein
Le 05/04/2011 07:41, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit : > That's the problem with grants, i guess. If a rich - and certainly > well-meaning - foundation invests money in a Big Project that doesn't > hurt free knowledge, but doesn't advance it too much either, it's not > a big problem by itself. Indeed! Vect

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Pronoein
A reminder about motivation, purpose and money. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-12 Thread Pronoein
Le 11/03/2011 00:57, Mani Pande a écrit : > > >> MzMcBride wrote: > >> "After having looked at the survey content, the survey software, and the >> survey format (particularly the length), I have very, very low confidence >> that anything of value will come from this (beyond lessons of what not t

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-11 Thread Pronoein
Le 11/03/2011 04:13, David Gerard a écrit : > On 11 March 2011 06:32, Pronoein wrote: > >> Hello Keegan. I think this list is not about siding and throwing >> moqueries at each other. We should respect what each one believes. > > > To have an opinion respected,it h

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-10 Thread Pronoein
Hello Keegan. I think this list is not about siding and throwing moqueries at each other. We should respect what each one believes. Le 11/03/2011 03:29, Keegan Peterzell a écrit : > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Mani Pande wrote: > >> >> >>> MzMcBride wrote: >> >>> "After having looked at the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia "Storyteller" job opening

2011-03-01 Thread Pronoein
Le 01/03/2011 18:31, Michael Snow a écrit : > On 3/1/2011 12:57 PM, Pronoein wrote: >> If there is such a minority of ethical concerns, it could be one of the >> reasons that volunteers are leaving the boat. > Based on the one survey of former contributors that has been conduct

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia "Storyteller" job opening

2011-03-01 Thread Pronoein
Le 01/03/2011 17:26, David Gerard a écrit : > On 1 March 2011 20:22, MZMcBride wrote: > >> The part where adding this person leads to better content? Wikimedia's >> mission is to educate the world with free content. I'm not sure how a >> Propaganda Minister really furthers that goal. There is a v

Re: [Foundation-l] Genisis of WMF Identification policy?

2011-02-26 Thread Pronoein
Le 27/02/2011 00:56, David Gerard a écrit : > [1] http://lesswrong.com/lw/le/lost_purposes/ - a great blog recently > recommended by Sue. Indeed. I'm currently reading it, I'm agreeing so far to interesting reflexions. ___ foundation-l mailing list fou

Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness (was: Missing Wikipedians: An Essay)

2011-02-26 Thread Pronoein
Le 26/02/2011 11:11, David Gerard a écrit : > Volunteers are not employees, and can't be > expected to just shut up and work. It really, really deeply doesn't > work like that. I don't follow you. Are you answering to something or somebody in particular? Was there a disagreement about that? Did an

Re: [Foundation-l] Genisis of WMF Identification policy?

2011-02-26 Thread Pronoein
Hello, I'm wondering one thing about this new policy applied with some haste, but I could'nt find the answer - the discussion really lengthy -: how will discrimation between those who shared their identity and those who declined will be avoided? Or maybe I should ask if we should discriminate the

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-19 Thread Pronoein
Le 19/02/2011 10:14, David Gerard a écrit : > On 19 February 2011 12:56, Teofilo wrote: >> 2011/2/19 David Gerard : > >>> Please detail the legal problems in question. So far you're making >>> blank assertions which contradict pretty much everyone else's >>> understanding of them. > >> In my vie

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Pronoein
Le 17/02/2011 03:41, Dan Rosenthal a écrit : > Your solution is that it is easier to blame the staff, rather than point out > that the criticism lacks any foundation? And then you say "assume good > faith"? That does not make much sense to me. Good faith is a two-way street. Not at all. I'm say

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Pronoein
Le 17/02/2011 02:07, Dan Rosenthal a écrit : > I'm not referring to a single incident. I'm referring to a broader trend; > there have been recent incidents on other mailing lists as well, including > ones where staff subscriptions are more prevalent than foundation-l (although > I'm going to dis

Re: [Foundation-l] New General Counsel!: Geoffrey Brigham

2011-02-05 Thread Pronoein
Welcome Geoff! ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l