Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains at GoDaddy

On 23/12/11 16:30, John Du Hart wrote: > This is currently on the reddit front page > http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/nnv9l/wikipediaorg_is_with_godaddy_jimmy_if_youre/ Everybody there seem to know whatever evil thoughts GoDaddy said, but there's no reference supporting that. > Why w

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia dumps downloader

emijrp wrote: > I didn't mean security problems. I meant just deleted files by weird > terms of service. Commons hosts a lot of images which can be > problematic, like nudes or copyrighted materials in some jurisdictions. > They can deleted what they want and close every account they want, and > we

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia dumps downloader

emijrp wrote: > Hi; > > @Derrick: I don't trust Amazon. I disagree. Note that we only need them to keep a redundant copy of a file. If they tried to tamper the file we could detect it with the hashes (which should be properly secured, that's no problem). I'd like having the hashes for the xml d

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia dumps downloader

emijrp wrote: > Hi SJ; > > You know that that is an old item in our TODO list ; ) > > I heard that Platonides developed a script for that task long time ago. > > Platonides, are you there? > > Regards, > emijrp Yes, I am. :) __

Re: [Foundation-l] YouTube and Creative Commons

Jon Harald Søby wrote: > With the news that YouTube will start letting users choose to upload their > videos under CC-by, what will be the way we deal with it? Should we open for > embedding videos directly from YouTube, or should they be uploaded to > Commons first? The only reason I can see for n

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

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[Foundation-l] Wikiwix porn ads (was: Advertising on Wikipedia)

F.-F. Duron a écrit: > Yes, but maybe you can control the partnerships you're making! Wikipedia is > one of the most visited websites in the world. Don't you think there is a > problem here?? Ça me semble malhereuse. Je ne croix pas que wikiwix a directement placé ces pubs mais quelque annonce p

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

Ryan Lomonaco wrote: > I think this has been brought up before, but a thought I've had: Apart from > the fact that it will require a ton of work in coding, what would keep us > from separating templates (and, for that matter, images) from the article > text? Article text would exist by itself, an

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

phoebe ayers wrote: > It's not news but AFAIK an actual image of the flag used is missing. > So if that turns up, that would be cool :) But I think it was already > gone by Feb. 2001. > > -- phoebe Isn't it the first piece of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Terribly_wrong.png ?

Re: [Foundation-l] Should we offer to host citizendium?

David Gerard wrote: > On 12 November 2010 14:57, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > >> I just cannot imagine that Larry Sanger could bear to see his beloved >> Citizendium on a Wikimedia server, among all that child pornography he >> is supposing there. > > It's not his any more. (Part of their problem is th

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors

MZMcBride wrote: > John Vandenberg wrote: >> The key would be to allow the mirrors to delete their mirror when they >> need to use their excess storage capability. If they let us know in >> advance that they are reclaiming the space, another organisation with >> excess storage capability can take

Re: [Foundation-l] Stewards acting locally

Aaron Adrignola wrote: > I appreciate your detailed explanation. If a page at Meta could be created > to explain this and linked to from the edit summaries this would do much to > eliminate confusion amongst local administrators. I do have a concern, > however. I've checked the SUL statuses for

Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..."

geni wrote: > Well I can search wikipedia-en-l as far back as 13.09.04 and I'm not > coming up with anything. Running google searches for mentions pre 2006 > doesn't turn up anything however use explodes in 2006 which is rather > fast if than jan 2006 use is the first. I grepped for it in foundati

Re: [Foundation-l] Did you say "usability" ?

Teofilo wrote: > 2010/6/15, Brandon Harris : > >> Could you provide me with the exact operating system and browser >> versions you are using? > > Thanks. I replied at > http://usability.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWikipedia_in_Spanish_new_version.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=7786

Re: [Foundation-l] Link in the Downloads section

Wilfredo Rodriguez wrote: > Sincerely wikimedia team. > > I have a simple question. I would like to make a proposal to add an > application (link) wikipedia offline here: > > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/dvd.html > > Who should I contact? > > The project that I want to add is called Kiwix and is

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 13 June 2010 19:04, Tim Landscheidt wrote: >> Thomas Dalton wrote: >> >> But that's most likely not a trademark issue. There are doz- >> ens of cola brands on the market and few feature extracts of >> the kola nut, but that doesn't mean that it is Coca-Cola's >> right or

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector improves the visibility of interwikis, reader said

Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > «You're marvellous. I've particularly appreciated the languages menu and > I think that in the future it will be even more important (Indian, > Chinese etc.).» > Funny feedback from a reader here: > http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Progetto:Coordinamento/Us

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Andrew Garrett wrote: > I will say to be fair that the best response to what you perceive as a > poor design choice in somebody else's code is not to revert them and > say "There, I fixed it for you. Thank me later.", but perhaps to > discuss it with them first and find a compromise. There's an > i

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Aryeh Gregor wrote: > Now, mind you, I don't necessary support getting rid of the > interlanguage links. I'm mostly objecting to the reasoning being > brought forward for that point, which seems to be mostly: > > * Some unknown number of users might somehow end up at a wiki they > don't understan

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > This would be a good idea only when you are allowed to choose the languages > you do want to see. > Thanks, > GerardM The problem is, you don't have them configured the first time you visit the wiki, which is when you are more likely to use them. I am all for

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Mariano Cecowski wrote: > --- El jue 3-jun-10, phoebe ayers escribió: >> That said, having the # of languages and/or a global >> selector as >> others have mentioned are both good ideas too and could be >> a good >> compromise. > > Can't we use a flag in a cookie to remember the choice of show/col

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

James Alexander wrote: > We have a couple threads on this issue but picking the most recent :). It > appears that this has now been changed ( > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23497 ) and so once the next > revision is pushed live the interwikis would be visible by default. > > Jame

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: SignWriting Encyclopedia Projects...new SignWriting Wiki

Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The creation of a wiki for SignWriting is a* very* exciting development. In > the language committee we have indicated that technical issues are what > prevents a Wikipedia for sign languages at this time. The SignWriting wiki > is effectively an incubator for the te

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

Brian S wrote: > I think you mean > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/b/bc/20100513062230!Wiki.png. Oh, right. I have still cached the nohat version on http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Wiki.png ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

Mike.lifeguard wrote: > The globe isn't actually too small, I think it just _looks_ that way > because: > > 1) the new logo has more space in it, in particular at the top > > 2) the new logo is typically viewed with Vector, which has more space > around the logo than monobook did. Take a look at

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

Jay Walsh wrote: > Right now volunteers are working with the new localization guide to create > the hundreds of new identities needed for each language variation of > Wikipedia. You can see the Commons gallery filling up here: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/2.0 This should the le

Re: [Foundation-l] On problems in commons

Mikemoral wrote: > But Muhammad's image is not illegal in the US, so why remove them? That has > no point. Why do we have to remove content perfectly legal under US law? > Please educate me why. Who said that the images Jimmy deleted (and which started all this debate) were illegal in the US? If t

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible project

Chad wrote: > I'm curious to know, how does one start a new project in Wikimedia > anymore? > > -Chad http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects Creating a new language for an existing project is easier: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages Before getting its

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible project

cool-RR wrote: > Hello Samuel, > > I'm glad I got the right list. > > According to your definition, the project fits Wikimedia's goal. I will now > introduce it. > > The project is called Librelist. The official website introduces it quite > well, so I'll just quote it: > Librelist is a free a

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announcement] Danese Cooper joins Wikimedia as CTO

Crossposting to wikitech. Welcome Danese! Sue Gardner wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm delighted to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation's new Chief > Technical Officer is Danese Cooper, an experienced technology manager > and open-source evangelist. Danese will start with Wikimedia on > February 4,

Re: [Foundation-l] Permanent deletion (tangent to the national portrait gallery thing)

private musings wrote: > Hi all, > > As a tangent to the national portrait gallery thing, I though I'd raise > something which I've chatted about previously (possibly here, but certainly > with various community members) which seems unresolved. > > My understanding of the status quo is that when

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia is not yet renamed to mo-cyrill as it was promised !!

Cetateanu Moldovanu wrote: > (and you still link it from > the first page of wikipedia..how ignorant can you be..). Be polite. I would otherwise sympathise with your situation, but DON'T-BE-RUDE. Moreover, the first page of wikipedia is managed by wikipedians, not by the developers... __

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

Anthony wrote: > (although I still haven't seen the WMF step up > to the plate and make it easy for people to make a full history fork, or > even to download all the images) You'll find full history dumps of almost all wikis at http://download.wikimedia.org/ Although not trivial, downloading all

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:54 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > >> Whether Google is good or evil is off-topic, and irrelevant to boot. >> > > Whether or not they have a right to exclude bots isn't. > > Also worth noting, Project Gutenberg has digitised less than 30,000 >> books sinc

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

Brian wrote: >> Where does it forbid them? > > > 5.3 You agree not to access (or attempt to access) any of the Services by > any means other than through the interface that is provided by Google, > unless you have been specifically allowed to do so in a separate agreement > with Google. You speci

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

Brian wrote: > That is against the law. It violates Google's ToS. > > I'm mostly complaining that Google is being Very Evil. There is nothing we > can do about it except complain to them. Which I don't know how to do - they > apparently believe that the plain text versions of their books are akin

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

Brian wrote: > Unfortunately the only way I've found to download the full text of a public > domain book from Google is to flip through the book a page at a time, > copying the text to your clipboard. > There are roughly 2-3 million public domain books in Google Books. That's easy to fix :)

Re: [Foundation-l] Why don't we re-encode proprietary formats as Ogg?

Michael Dale wrote: > hmm.. it will be a one-two click install directly from the upload page. > (if the user is using Firefox). Then it works exactly the same as the > existing upload interface only it transcodes the video as it uploads > > Yea it would be good to support both; and yes we sh

Re: [Foundation-l] Why don't we re-encode proprietary formats as Ogg?

David Gerard wrote: > It would be a simple matter of programming to have something that > allows upload of encumbered video and audio formats and re-encode them > as Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis. It would greatly add to how much stuff we > get, as it would save the user the trouble of re-encoding, or >

Re: [Foundation-l] Long-term archiving of Wikimedia content

Aryeh Gregor wrote: > Actually, there are more assumptions: you have to assume that humanity > *ever* recovers, and within a period of time when people will still > understand written English. You'd have to calibrate the magnitude of > a catastrophe *very* carefully to get a situation where civili

Re: [Foundation-l] site notice not accessible to users with disabilities

jidanni wrote: > Imagine there was a message so important that you show it at the top of > the page, on every page on the whole site, and in every language; no > matter if you are logged in or not, and no matter how many times you > have seen it before. > > Then imagine all you ever hear about the

Re: [Foundation-l] OT: Re: PGP-keysign at the tech/chapter-meeting

I generally agree with your points, but I'll reply your points even if it's just slightly more secure. Aryeh Gregor wrote: > Okay, great. So if someone shows up with an index finger like yours, > there are two possibilities: > > 1) Someone forged this e-mail from you that I was relying on, and

Re: [Foundation-l] [Toolserver-l] PGP-keysign at the tech/chapter-meeting

There's another way to do a key-signing, faster than 1-to-1. You have everyone have a list and each one presents itself, giving their fingerprint. I guess you'll have a brief introduction at the beginning where everyone presents himself? If you were to say "I'm Daniel (aka as DaB), the evil toolser

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees: December 2008

Lars Aronsson wrote: > Sue Gardner wrote: > >> Report to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees [...] >> From December 9-15, Jimmy Wales and Sue Gardner visited India. > > It is great to read this report. But the archived version has been > cut (by a software bug) at the line starting with "

Re: [Foundation-l] Cabal?

I considered doing a serius answer listing the reasons it doesn't stand up but it isn't worth. Just smile and pass on. It would have been nice if he had waited a month more to reveal that, though. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] dumps

Brian wrote: > Yep a typo, here is the right link: > > http://grey.colorado.edu/enwiki-20080103-pages-meta-history.xml.7z People downloading it would like to verify they downloaded it correctly. md5(enwiki-20080103-pages-meta-history.xml.7z) is 20a201afc05a4e5f2f6c3b9b7afa225c

Re: [Foundation-l] mirroring a portion of the wikipedia

Robert Rohde wrote: > True, though under the current system a middle man in position of a > user authentication token could do exactly the same things to > Wikimedia as someone with the plaintext password. Which is a short > way of saying our system has never been built with much security in > min

Re: [Foundation-l] A funny coincidence

Michael Snow escribió: > I suppose I should bring it with me whether I spend it or not. Anyway, I'm > looking forward to Wikimania, and seeing any of you that are able to > make it. > > --Michael Snow You should bring it and not spend it. I foresee you will be asked about them there :-) _

Re: [Foundation-l] History splitting (main namespace)

Emanuele Casadio wrote: > Hi there. We've got a problem on it.wikipedia. > Recently a sysop tried to delete the page [[it:Football Club > Internazionale Milano]] in order to hide a vandalism that should not > be available on the history page (copyright violation, blasphemies, > personal information

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia IdeaTorrent?

Erik Moeller wrote: > If you haven't seen it yet, Ubuntu is running an interesting > brainstorming software called IdeaTorrent to think collectively about > common problems and solutions: > > http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ > > The software: > > http://www.ideatorrent.org/ > > I wonder - would pe

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

Gregory Kohs responds: > > I am of the understanding that none of the members of the WMF Board or staff > are > related by blood or marriage to any of the owners or staff of Wikia, > Inc. Well, my understanding is otherwise, but I don't think that such difference makes a difference here. __

Re: [Foundation-l] CIA/NSA development of mediawiki

Brian wrote: > That means I can clarify why my much hated factual correction was > appropriate. Here was the original statement: > >> If the CIA were to hand you a improved-mediawiki binary, sure > > Let's briefly suppose that there are binaries for mediawiki (which is false > - but suppose they

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 58, Issue 130

feumar...@infomed.sld.cu escribió: > HI, I AM NEW IN ALL THIS THING, PLEASE I NEED ALL OF YOU HELP ME.I AM CUBAN, > AND MY > ENGLISH, IS NOT VERY GOOD,SO PLEASE SEND ME THE MESSAGES IN SPANISH, SO I CAN > UNDERSTAND > YOU. En tal caso probablemente esta lista de correo no sea adecuada para ti.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Given that we know that NSA conducts massive illegal spying operations, there > is possibility that selinux is altered in a fashion that will make it easier > for NSA to spy on selinux' users. I don't know what are CIA's contributions > to MediaWiki, but unless it is tr

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

Andrew Gray wrote: > 2009/1/22 Erik Moeller : > >> A vast number of pseudonyms below have no meaning except for >> their context in Wikipedia. > > Apropos of which, a thought. We have spilled a good bit of ink over > whether or not it is appropriate for the reuser to attribute > "Wikipedia users"

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

Sam Johnston wrote: > You're right, which is another great reason *not* to link to the history > page URLs (which are as ugly as sin) but to the article directly (which is > *significantly* more useful for the reusers' users). While I find it very > hard to believe Wikipedia will cease to exist, t

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

Erik Moeller wrote: > Because I don't think it's good to discuss attribution as an abstract > principle, just as an example, the author attribution for the article > [[France]] is below, excluding IP addresses. According to the view > that attribution needs to be given to each pseudonym, this entir

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

Sam Johnston wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > >>> "Das Wikipedia Lexikon in einem Band"[1] is another stunning example of >>> attribution gone mad >> A few pages of names in a 1000 page book doesn't seem that mad to me. >> I think it makes an excellent point about h

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

Erik Moeller wrote: > 2009/1/21 Thomas Dalton: >> A lot of the problems you are having there are because you are trying >> to group things into "print" and "online". The correct dichotomy is >> "online" and "offline". Of course you are going to have problems >> classifying DVDs if your classifactio

Re: [Foundation-l] Domains

Marcus Buck wrote: > On November 4 2003 Jimbo Wales announced, that 200 EUR were donated to > register European domain names > (). > > Did this ever happen? I wonder, cause as far as I know, many domains are > still no

Re: [Foundation-l] How to dismantle a language committee

Mohamed Magdy wrote: > * I think it would be doable to make a tab that Egyptianizes (or any other > dialect) the Arabic article, that is, if we have some sort of conversion > memory, that is if the dialect is stable (or standard), the dialect differs > from a place to another, from a muhafazah to a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

Pharos wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote: >>> When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why >>> they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to find >>> "pa

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

teun spaans wrote: > Many times it works well. > But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss. > > I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct > license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, making a bot > come along and warn me. By pure coincidence i

Re: [Foundation-l] Usability: Is our vocabulary SNAFU?

Ziko van Dijk wrote: > About usability: I believe that one significant barrier for new Wikimedians > is the jargon in the Wikimedia projects, mostly in discussions, but also in > help pages: > * Expressions from computer science: IP, bug, URL > * Expressions from the Open Source movement: fork, sta

Re: [Foundation-l] WP edit/access blocking in the UK - statement from the WMF

Anthony wrote: >>> Any page containing the url of the image would make more sense. >>> >>> Are they blocking >> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer&oldid=256621147 ? >> > > I guess http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=256621147 would be a It was edited since I send my prev

Re: [Foundation-l] WP edit/access blocking in the UK - statement from the WMF

David Gerard wrote: > 2008/12/8 Jay A. Walsh: > > >> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Censorship_of_WP_in_the_UK_Dec_2008 > > > http://www.boingboing.net/2008/12/07/how-the-great-firewa.html > > How the Great Firewall of Britain works > > - d. Interesting, which urls are th

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikipedia-l] mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?

Dan Collins wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Cetateanu Moldovanu > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> By leaving mo. domain like this you continue to support and agree to "soviet >> union" politics they did to us(russification, cultural changes, >> discrimination).. >> Really very painful to se