Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-25 Thread En Pine
2012/3/25 En Pine > Also, Steven, could you send the link to the place where we can look at > your ?not-so-secret effort to make the current user talk template system > more human?? I?m not clear on which page is the main one, > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_A/B_testin

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-25 Thread En Pine
For those who are interested in quantitative studies on the subject of editor motivation, I suggest looking at the list of academic papers at http://wikipapers.referata.com/wiki/Motivations. I learned about that list from a recent post to research-l. I assume that Steven Walling and the other WM

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor retention (was "Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!")

2012-03-23 Thread En Pine
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 22:01, En Pine wrote: think that we should move in the opposite direction, permitting and possibly even encouraging people to be social (within reasonable limits) while working collaboratively on our collective project of Wikipedia. I agree. When I was a new editor I

Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates

2012-03-22 Thread En Pine
>> On 03/22/12 1:37 AM, En Pine wrote: >> First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to >> the user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for >> Commons, Simple, and other projects? Currently we require a human to

Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates

2012-03-22 Thread En Pine
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:41:18 + > From: David Gerard > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 22 March 2012 08:37, En Pine w

[Foundation-l] User talk templates

2012-03-22 Thread En Pine
I have two suggestions about templates. I don’t know if Steven’s the right person to ask about these particular ideas so I’m sending this email to him and CCing it to Foundation-l. First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to the user’s talk page when they first reg

[Foundation-l] Editor retention (was "Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!")

2012-03-21 Thread En Pine
Responding to MZMcBride's question, "And a bit larger than this, what's an acceptable cost for keeping new editors around? For example, deleting a new user's article is probably the easiest way to discourage him or her, but is the alternative (allowing their spammy page to sit around for a while

Re: [Foundation-l] Will Beback (responding to James)

2012-03-11 Thread En Pine
Hi James, I'd like to respond your point about procedure. Just as we in the United States refer difficult court cases to the Supreme Court and not to the electorate, it seems to me that there is good reason to refer difficult conduct cases to a deliberative body, which in the case of English

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia financials - bank fees

2012-03-10 Thread En Pine
I notice that the financial report at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_February_2012 says something about “higher bank fees ($42K)”. Has anyone taken a hard look at these fees to see if WMF could organize its utilization of bank services in such a way that it can lower thi

Re: [Foundation-l] Strategy wiki logo, why are Strategy and Meta separate wikis?

2012-03-10 Thread En Pine
Sorry about the typo. That should have said foundation-l. Pine -Original Message- From: En Pine Sent: Saturday, 10 March, 2012 19:57 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: Strategy wiki logo, why are Strategy and Meta separate wikis? Others have asked this question on the

Re: [Foundation-l] Strategy wiki logo, why are Strategy and Meta separate wikis?

2012-03-10 Thread En Pine
Others have asked this question on the wiki strategy logo's talk page, but I think that forum-l is a better place for this question. Why do we have Strategy as a separate wiki from Meta? Would it be better to merge the two wikis? Pine -- Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 20

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Mid-Year Presentation to the Board, esp. Visual Editor

2012-03-04 Thread En Pine
Hi Sue, Thanks for the reply. I didn't expect a response until Monday at the earliest! I understand that the primary audience was the Board and that they would be seeing this with the addition verbal commentary. However, when WMF is also making these slides public, which I think is a great t

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Mid-Year Presentation to the Board, esp. Visual Editor

2012-03-03 Thread En Pine
ve green checks by an item that’s still a work in progress and months away from completion. I would like to suggest that a more cautionary visual symbol such as the words “in progress” would have been more appropriate. From: En Pine Sent: Saturday, 03 March, 2012 21:42 To: foundation-l@lists.wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Mid-Year Presentation to the Board, esp. Visual Editor

2012-03-03 Thread En Pine
I appreciated this presentation. It raised many good points about successes and challenges. However, I’d like to know why the visual editor appears to be checked as a finished item in this presentation, in the slides https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Mid

[Foundation-l] Budget for Summer of Research 2011

2012-02-10 Thread En Pine
Because this subject was previously mentioned on Foundation-l and Research-l, I thought that those who are interested in research budgets might want to look at the information that’s now available here. Thanks to Steven Walling (WMF) for following up. I’m hoping that we’ll see more of this kind

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Board of Trustees meeting agenda

2012-01-27 Thread En Pine
Phoebe, On this agenda, could you give more detail about the topic "Paid editing discussion"? There is a current discussion on EN at the Village Pump regarding, among other things, PR personnel who edit on Wikipedia in ways that might violate NPOV and COI policy. It would be good to know if th

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Summer of Research 2011

2011-12-28 Thread En Pine
> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:00:02 -0800 > From: Steven Walling > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Summer of Research 2011 > questions > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:47

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Summer of Research 2011 questions

2011-12-22 Thread En Pine
I’ve read http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_Summer_of_Research_2011/Summary_of_Findings and have some questions. 1. What was the projected total cost for this research? 2. What was the final cost? 3. What was the projected ROI, and what metrics were chosen to quantify ROI? 4. Wh

Re: [Foundation-l] New Wikipedia gender gap research posted to Meta

2011-11-07 Thread En Pine
Forwarding a response from Hawkeye7: Yes, "the only real conclusion that can be drawn from this research is that articles on Wikipedia use language scored as male by this specific test." This is always the problem with quantitative analysis. On the one hand, the test is both objective and repe

[Foundation-l] New Wikipedia gender gap research posted to Meta

2011-11-07 Thread En Pine
New Wikipedia gender gap research has been posted to Meta. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_Gap This research was a collaborative effort of user:LauraHale, User:Hawkeye7, User:Pine, and others. "...This analysis will focus on characteristics of female participants on English Wikipedia