Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
> > Hi Birgitte > > I greatly respect your opinion, and rarely found myself disagreeing with > you. I didn't want to reply in-line because I believe majority of your > opinions stem from the wisdom of the crowd model, which might best describe > the wiki model and the assumption that, it will con

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Oh come on people - this is yet another Foundation-l discussion that has gone > off the rails.."the elusiveness of Samuel Klein"?  sounds like a thriller > novel..  I'm not sure we need to be attacking other volunteers here.  :/ That's t

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Steven Walling
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Sarah wrote: > Does anyone know what kind of experiments we're talking about? I can partially clarify here... - These will not be "pilot projects" resembling the Global Education Program in any particular country. (Which is why it's very strange to be using it

Re: [Foundation-l] Timeline for the Observers

2012-03-24 Thread Etienne Beaule
Wrong mailing list, sorry. Ebe123 On 12-03-24 10:23 PM, "Etienne Beaule" wrote: > Just to note that I¹ve been bold have added a timeline for the Observers. > It¹s under a collapsible heading and could get some tweaking. > > Etienne Beaule > Ebe123 > ___

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Theo10011
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:10 AM, wrote: > > > > > On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:07 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > > birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:53 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > >>> Sue Gardner wrote: > Everybody knows that reversing stagnating/declining participation > in Wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Pages very slow to load since March 21

2012-03-24 Thread Sarah
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >>> Could someone from the Foundation confirm that they're looking into >>> it? It's getting to the point where it's quite hard to edit. > >> Tim's investigating it now. > > This appears t

[Foundation-l] Timeline for the Observers

2012-03-24 Thread Etienne Beaule
Just to note that I¹ve been bold have added a timeline for the Observers. It¹s under a collapsible heading and could get some tweaking. Etienne Beaule Ebe123 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] Pages very slow to load since March 21

2012-03-24 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >> Could someone from the Foundation confirm that they're looking into >> it? It's getting to the point where it's quite hard to edit. > Tim's investigating it now. This appears to have been a networking issue causing packet loss and timeouts,

Re: [Foundation-l] Pages very slow to load since March 21

2012-03-24 Thread Sarah
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Sarah wrote: > >> Could someone from the Foundation confirm that they're looking into >> it? It's getting to the point where it's quite hard to edit. > > Tim's investigating it now. > > -- > Erik Möller > VP o

Re: [Foundation-l] Pages very slow to load since March 21

2012-03-24 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Sarah wrote: > Could someone from the Foundation confirm that they're looking into > it? It's getting to the point where it's quite hard to edit. Tim's investigating it now. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support

[Foundation-l] Pages very slow to load since March 21

2012-03-24 Thread Sarah
to be getting worse. MZMcBride has reported it, and someone has produced a graph confirming there is a problem. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/attachments/20120324/41311a44/attachment-0001.png Could someone from the Foundation confirm that they're looking into it? It's

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:07 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:53 AM, MZMcBride wrote: >>> Sue Gardner wrote: Everybody knows that reversing stagnating/declining participation in Wikimedia's projects is our top priority. >>> >>> Thank you fo

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 March 2012 23:16, Sarah wrote: > Does anyone know what kind of experiments we're talking about? Only those who read to the top of the thread. (Article feedback tool, new article wizard, etc.) - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@li

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Sarah
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 1:06 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > >> Experiments are acceptable... sometimes. > > MZM, I didn't expect you to become the voice of conservatism! > > I cannot agree with your premise that experiments are somehow > 'optional' o

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 02:26, Samuel Klein wrote: > Technically, we could attract raw contributors with the flick of a > finger: by encouraging editing via sitenotices. > But attracting people who won't contribute well, or will have a bad > experience -- or doing so when there is no good way to i

Re: [Foundation-l] [Internal-l] Wikiwomencamp Buenos Aires, Argentina May 23-25, 2012 (updates)

2012-03-24 Thread Béria Lima
cross posting _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. * On 24 March 2012 14:28, Siska Doviana wrote: > Apology for cross p

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Gregory Varnum
Oh come on people - this is yet another Foundation-l discussion that has gone off the rails.."the elusiveness of Samuel Klein"? sounds like a thriller novel.. I'm not sure we need to be attacking other volunteers here. :/ There are dozens of ways to approach new editor engagement. I respect

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread cyrano
I feel compelled to express my agreement with MZMcBride. I find his questioning pertinent. I wish the quality of content were at the core of the WMF. I feel disappointed by the direction it is choosing, and by the elusiveness of Samuel Klein whose wisdom I used to respect greatly. What happened, Sa

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread MZMcBride
Samuel Klein wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 1:06 AM, MZMcBride wrote: >> Experiments are acceptable... sometimes. > > MZM, I didn't expect you to become the voice of conservatism! > > I cannot agree with your premise that experiments are somehow > 'optional' or new. Experimentation is the lif

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Chris Keating
There are so many potential ways of recruiting new high-quality editors. However, at the moment almost all of them founder (at least on the English Wikipedia) on the likely reception of peoples' first edits. Take, for the sake of argument, Wikimedia UK's donor list. There are 50,000 people who car

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 1:06 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Experiments are acceptable... sometimes. MZM, I didn't expect you to become the voice of conservatism! I cannot agree with your premise that experiments are somehow 'optional' or new. Experimentation is the lifeblood of any project build arou