Re: [Foundation-l] Missing wikis now redirect to Incubator

2011-12-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Tim, how hard is it to create a missing DNS entry for a language code that is "eligible" under the language policy? Thanks, Gerard On 23 December 2011 01:24, Tim Starling wrote: > On 23/12/11 09:44, Milos Rancic wrote: > > This is great news! In the sense of software implementation, w

Re: [Foundation-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-22 Thread David Richfield
>> About external links, the real question is: what is a good number of >> links to have at the end of an article?  Everyone will surely agree >> that an article with 100 external links at the end is not ideal.  What >> people want from Wikipedia is a site where others have sifted through >> the ch

[Foundation-l] Editor Appeals Galore!

2011-12-22 Thread Megan Hernandez
Hi everyone, These past few weeks, we’ve rotated through a couple dozen appeals with people from different parts of the world with unique Wikipedia experiences and personal stories to tell. It honestly has been so fun and inspiring to help tell their stories. Right now and for the next few days,

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Oliver Keyes
I'm not going to reply to the *entire* email, because I don't have all the data in front of me (and it's 3:40am - even if I did, I'm not going to write anything massively coherent ;p) - I'll revisit when I've poked some people to get some more info. However, one thing the current version has been u

[Foundation-l] Editor Appeals Galore!

2011-12-22 Thread Megan Hernandez
Hi everyone, These past few weeks, we’ve rotated through a couple dozen appeals with people from different parts of the world with unique Wikipedia experiences and personal stories to tell. It honestly has been so fun and inspiring to help tell their stories. Right now and for the next few days,

Re: [Foundation-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-22 Thread kgorman
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote: So tell me, what failure rate would you find acceptable? You apparently are not disturbed at a >90% failure rate to use external links; would you be disturbed at 95%? At 99%? Before trying to put me onto a slippery slope, explain where on the

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Liam Wyatt
Oliver, with regards to Geni's question and your response, this is what I understood was the situation too: that the use of AFTv5 was on a small subset of articles to ensure minimum disruption to the editing community whilst still being able to gain enough usage data from readers to know whether

Re: [Foundation-l] Missing wikis now redirect to Incubator

2011-12-22 Thread Tim Starling
On 23/12/11 09:44, Milos Rancic wrote: > This is great news! In the sense of software implementation, we are > just a step behind the implementation of the initial spirit of > Wikipedia: If you know this language, you can start free encyclopedia > now! (Though, there are some organizational issues

Re: [Foundation-l] Missing wikis now redirect to Incubator

2011-12-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 23:26, Robin Pepermans wrote: > Hello all, > > As of yesterday, when you go to a missing wiki (the redlinks on > Special:SiteMatrix) you will no longer see a static "this wiki does > not exist" error, but it will redirect to the Wikimedia Incubator, > where there is either

[Foundation-l] Missing wikis now redirect to Incubator

2011-12-22 Thread Robin Pepermans
Hello all, As of yesterday, when you go to a missing wiki (the redlinks on Special:SiteMatrix) you will no longer see a static "this wiki does not exist" error, but it will redirect to the Wikimedia Incubator, where there is either a development wiki or an info page inviting you to start one. Exce

[Foundation-l] Quality of information on depression and schizophrenia on Wikipedia

2011-12-22 Thread Sydney Poore
New study that reviews the quality of information on depression and schizophrenia on Wikipedia, and compares it to centrally controlled websites, Encyclopaedia Britannica and a psychiatry textbook. Wikipedia is generally as good as, or better than centrally controlled websites, Encyclopaedia Brita

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Summer of Research 2011 questions

2011-12-22 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:01 AM, En Pine wrote: > I’ve read > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_Summer_of_Research_2011/Summary_of_Findingsand > have some questions. > > 1. What was the projected total cost for this research? > 2. What was the final cost? > 3. What was the projec

Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with the Head of Reader Relations, Thursday Dec. 22nd

2011-12-22 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > Hi Steven, > > is there some kind of Google Agenda of this type of meetings that I could > load into my own? Then I could use that as a reminder as well. > > Best, > Lodewijk > Good idea. Right now these events live usually in the Google Calenda

Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with the Head of Reader Relations, Thursday Dec. 22nd

2011-12-22 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 22. Dezember 2011 10:38 schrieb Lodewijk : > is there some kind of Google Agenda of this type of meetings that I could > load into my own? Then I could use that as a reminder as well. I would appreciate it if you please could provide an iCal calendar that works with Thunderbird/Lightning and A

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Oliver Keyes
I'm not seeing the problem there, actually; the feedback page itself isn't up yet (again, just for testing) so editors aren't expected to do anything with the feedback. Am I missing something? On 22 December 2011 17:25, geni wrote: > On 22 December 2011 13:11, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > That's cor

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread geni
On 22 December 2011 13:11, Oliver Keyes wrote: > That's correct, Tom. 0.3 percent of the English language Wikipedia is being > used as a testbed for the *rest* of the English-language Wikipedia; a > tertiary testbed, since we've already run things through on both prototype > and labs :). Obviously

[Foundation-l] I don´t believe in feedback tools

2011-12-22 Thread Hubert
Feedbacks and Experts for websites are evil. 1. It costs a lot of money 2. Nobody will analyse it really 3. the type of questioning determines the results 4. It is only good for people who want to take no responsibility for their own work. 5. last but not least, no one will implement the findings

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Oliver Keyes
Actually, we're trying to avoid turning off AFT4. The reasoning is twofold. On a product development front, the AFT5 presence is for testing purposes, and for testing purposes only; it will be up for around 2-3 weeks so we can build a decent picture of the quantity and quality of feedback we're ge

Re: [Foundation-l] Talk pages Considered Harmful (for references)

2011-12-22 Thread Gwern Branwen
2011/12/22 David Richfield : > This article starts as a complaint about external links being moved to > talk pages and never making it back to the main page, and then becomes > a rant against deletionism. No, it does not 'start' as that; the complaint is a subsection and case-study into one deleti

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Liam Wyatt
Good-o. That's what I also understood your & Erik's emails to mean :-) So - with regards to my original question? In summary it was: Now that the new versions (AFTv5) of the tool are being tested on 0.3% of en.wp, can you turn off the now-obsolete "5-star rating" version currently running o

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Oliver Keyes
And thanks for bringing this up, Jussi! You're usually pretty on the ball, so if you misunderstood what I wrote, it's most likely because my prose was unclear :). I appreciate the chance to correct myself before the poor prose leads others to get the wrong impression too :). On 22 December 2011 13

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Oliver Keyes
That's correct, Tom. 0.3 percent of the English language Wikipedia is being used as a testbed for the *rest* of the English-language Wikipedia; a tertiary testbed, since we've already run things through on both prototype and labs :). Obviously if we decide "lets deploy to other projects" we'd take

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Tom Morris
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 02:56, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Sorry, did a double-take there. Tell me I read that wrong, please! My > eyes must be deceiving me or my reading comprehension not being > quite up to the task right now... But some weird brainfart made me > read that in such a way that

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Summer of Research 2011 questions

2011-12-22 Thread En Pine
I’ve read http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_Summer_of_Research_2011/Summary_of_Findings and have some questions. 1. What was the projected total cost for this research? 2. What was the final cost? 3. What was the projected ROI, and what metrics were chosen to quantify ROI? 4. Wh

Re: [Foundation-l] Asking for permission [1] to use WMF resources

2011-12-22 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi Everton - I forwarded this to the legal team (legal{at}wikimedia.org). They should be in touch. :) ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org 2011/12/21 Everton Zanella Alvarenga > Hi, > > may I

Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with the Head of Reader Relations, Thursday Dec. 22nd

2011-12-22 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Steven, is there some kind of Google Agenda of this type of meetings that I could load into my own? Then I could use that as a reminder as well. Best, Lodewijk No dia 22 de Dezembro de 2011 00:29, Steven Walling escreveu: > This is happening in about 30 minutes. > > -- Forwarded mess