Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Tom Morris wrote: > > I was drawing an analogy: the point I was making is very simple - the > general principle of "we shouldn't do X because someone else might > reuse it for bad thing Y" is a pretty lousy argument, given that we do > quite a lot of things in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising update

2011-12-01 Thread Megan Hernandez
Chapters are ok with sharing the numbers. Please note, these are preliminary numbers: https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsYxO0Je1DGRdHZQMW53X2xSMm5JaWc4ZWNseU9uemc&hl=en_US#gid=0 On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Brandon Harris wrote: > > > On 11/30/11 6:11 PM, Sue Gar

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising update

2011-12-01 Thread Brandon Harris
On 11/30/11 6:11 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > There was a brief outage due to that page, Nathan, a few days ago. > (Because of Brandon Harris's AMA on Reddit.) Sorry about that. -- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoun

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising update

2011-12-01 Thread Sue Gardner
On 1 December 2011 15:33, Juergen Fenn wrote: > Sue, if you are currently not able to give live statistics for technical > reasons, perhaps you could announce the current statistics on a static web > page for the meanwhile? Hi Juergen, I think there's a backup Google spreadsheet. The spreadshe

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising update

2011-12-01 Thread Juergen Fenn
Sue, if you are currently not able to give live statistics for technical reasons, perhaps you could announce the current statistics on a static web page for the meanwhile? Best regards, Juergen Fenn. - Ursprüngliche Message - > Von: Sue Gardner > An: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Tom Morris wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 09:11, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: >> This is not a theoretical risk. This has happened. Most famously in >> the case of Virgin using pictures of persons that were licenced under >> a free licence, in their advertising

Re: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours this Sunday, about the FeedbackDashboard response teams

2011-12-01 Thread Etienne Beaule
On incubator too. On 11-12-01 6:30 PM, "Steven Walling" wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted to give anyone interested a heads up that we are holding an > IRC office hours this Sunday, December 4th at 22:00 UTC. This is about the > informal taskforce developing around the Special:FeedbackDashboard f

[Foundation-l] IRC office hours this Sunday, about the FeedbackDashboard response teams

2011-12-01 Thread Steven Walling
Hi, I just wanted to give anyone interested a heads up that we are holding an IRC office hours this Sunday, December 4th at 22:00 UTC. This is about the informal taskforce developing around the Special:FeedbackDashboard feature that the WMF features team has developed for collecting new editor fee

Re: [Foundation-l] c6e7b72d1e1d565603d3d7b0a77e00ba17a7d306

2011-12-01 Thread Michael Snow
On 12/1/2011 11:15 AM, Dan Collins wrote: > The sum total of human knowledge, and we can't find a decent spam filter. No, that really is the sum total of human knowledge, expressed in hexadecimal. I was pretty sure it would add up to more than 42. --Michael Snow _

Re: [Foundation-l] c6e7b72d1e1d565603d3d7b0a77e00ba17a7d306

2011-12-01 Thread Dan Collins
The sum total of human knowledge, and we can't find a decent spam filter. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread Tom Morris
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 09:11, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > This is not a theoretical risk. This has happened. Most famously in > the case of Virgin using pictures of persons that were licenced under > a free licence, in their advertising campaign. I hesitate to call this > argument fatuous, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Tom Morris wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 03:34, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: >> >> While I don't find that line of argument to be a fully fledged >> straw-horse argument, it >> does appear to me to be a cherry-picked argument to *attempt* to >> refute. There ar

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread Kim Bruning
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 08:53:09PM +1100, John Vandenberg wrote: > The latter can be solved by labelling but not filtering. If you are > on the train and a link is annotated with a tag "nsfw", you can not > click it, or be wary about the destination page. Dude, no. That's prejudicial labelling.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Gendergap] Fundraising is for men

2011-12-01 Thread emijrp
2011/12/1 Carol Moore > On 11/29/2011 5:19 PM, emijrp wrote: > > > > > > So, the first step would be to try and figure out if women are > > visiting the site and not editing or just not visiting at all, before > > saying nonsense about sexism and Wikipedia community. > > Fundraising from women is

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Tom Morris wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 03:34, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: >> >> While I don't find that line of argument to be a fully fledged >> straw-horse argument, it >> does appear to me to be a cherry-picked argument to *attempt* to >> refute. There ar

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > ... The "downstream > use" objection > was *never* about downstream use of _content_ but downstream use of _labels_ > and > the structuring of the semantic data. That is a real horse of a > different colour, and not > of straw. Tom t

[Foundation-l] c6e7b72d1e1d565603d3d7b0a77e00ba17a7d306

2011-12-01 Thread Karrie Byrd
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Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Tom Morris wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 03:34, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: >> >> While I don't find that line of argument to be a fully fledged >> straw-horse argument, it >> does appear to me to be a cherry-picked argument to *attempt* to >> refute. There ar