Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Liam Wyatt
I think you deserve a barnstar (made via Wiki-love of course!) for that :-) I've never really liked "Mank", but I do like a spread of some "Ind" with my tea in the morning. Seriously though... in Wikilove can't the logo (the heart) and all of the individual awards (barnstars, food, animals) be cha

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Cynthia Ashley-Nelson
I find pink hearts depressing. Red hearts are okay, though. Mankind. It's a troubling topic. Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: “Mankind”. Basically, it’s made up of two separate words – “mank” and “ind”. What do these words mean? It’s a mystery, and that’s wh

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Etienne Beaule
On incubator only, and probably the WikimediaIncubator extension. All was set up. On 11-10-28 7:31 PM, "Brandon Harris" wrote: > > > On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote: >> It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. >> > > Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabl

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I don't think that's accurate. WikiLove only has a single bug filed against it, and it's just a feature request: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=WikiLove&list_id=42901 If you know of any technical problems, please let me know. And for those of you who hate pi

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Brandon Harris
On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote: > It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. > Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet. WikiLove was not rolled out "en mass"; the policy for deployment of the tool is that it is by request only,

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Etienne Beaule
It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. On 11-10-28 7:16 PM, "Erik Moeller" wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Teofilo wrote: >> Now we are seeing the appearance of a feedback tool on the English >> Wikipedia ? How long are the non-English Wikipedias going to be fr

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Fred Bauder
No good, the Grinch already stole Christmas. A juggernaut of foolishness and play is bearing down on you... Fred > The WMF has been recently backing softwares that are a breach of > "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" (1). Recently a totally stupid pink > heart was added to user talk pages, making

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I just built WikiLove to make giving barnstars easier. The WFM didn't invent giving barnstars, that tradition was created by the community. Since it's been going on for quite a few years, I think your complaint is a bit late. Ryan Kaldari On 10/28/11 3:00 PM, Teofilo wrote: > The WMF has been

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Teofilo wrote: > Now we are seeing the appearance of a feedback tool on the English > Wikipedia ? How long are the non-English Wikipedias going to be free > from this new stupid tool which has nothing to do with writing an > encyclopaedia ? In addition to English

[Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-28 Thread Teofilo
The WMF has been recently backing softwares that are a breach of "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" (1). Recently a totally stupid pink heart was added to user talk pages, making people believe it is Valentine Day everyday, with the result that Wikipedia is now being used as a social network or a ga

Re: [Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

2011-10-28 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Dirk Franke wrote: >the cultural homogenous group of Germans tends to discuss in German. So to >give you a short update on what is happening: > >A White Bag protest movement against the image filter is forming. > >And people who talked privately about a fork for some time, start to think >and say

Re: [Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

2011-10-28 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 08:49:42AM +0200, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > It is my understanding that parental software is often too overarching > or otherwise inadequate. ... and this despite (very likely) having a larger budget than the foundation ;-) There's a reason the software is inadequate,

Re: [Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

2011-10-28 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 03:13:22PM -0700, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Tobias Oelgarte > wrote: > > What approaches do you have in mind, that would empower the editors and > > the readers, aside from an hide/show all solution? > > 1) Add a "collapsible" [*] parameter to

Re: [Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

2011-10-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 October 2011 20:08, Kim Bruning wrote: > I have the impression that most opposition comes from people with an IT > background. That is to say, people who have tried to figure it out, and have > had > some trouble finding a solution. (I may be biased, since that's my own > personal > backg

Re: [Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

2011-10-28 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:57:59AM +1100, Billinghurst wrote: > I do wish that this discussion can just move to implementation. This is about > what I get to filter for what I get to see, or when I get to see it. I have > had > enough of other people believing that they get to make their choices

Re: [Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

2011-10-28 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 03:36:18PM -0700, Erik Moeller wrote: > > Making it easy for editors to say, based on normal editorial judgment > and established practices in their project, "Hey, reader, there's > something here you might not want to see ... and BTW, would you like > to remember that cho

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback Dashboard launched today

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel ~ Leinad
Hi, Thank you for information, this tool looks very useful to help newbies! :) Btw I have a few questions. 1. Are you going to enable this tool (MoodBar+Dashboard) on next wikis or it depends on communities requests to enable it? 2. When this tool will support GENDER? (https://bugzilla.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] just wondering, are we going to take down en.wikipedia.org?

2011-10-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 October 2011 13:48, Peter Gervai wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 04:05, Tim Starling wrote: >> as I did. We both spend a lot of time making sure Wikipedia is always >> up and available for people to read, so it's painful to see a small >> proportion of a wiki's users decide to take a whol

Re: [Foundation-l] just wondering, are we going to take down en.wikipedia.org?

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gervai
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 04:05, Tim Starling wrote: > as I did. We both spend a lot of time making sure Wikipedia is always > up and available for people to read, so it's painful to see a small > proportion of a wiki's users decide to take a whole wiki offline for > everyone. But let's not forget