Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Christophe Henner
I think that is exactly Michael's point. ChapterS appoint two board members. So no single organisation expects the two members selected to push one chapter agenda. On the other, what Jimmy propose is that one organisation appoints a representative in one other organisation. Hence it would be ex

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/02/11 1:02 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > Meanwhile, on the subject of mutual board appointments between chapters > and the foundation, I figured I'd chime in as I helped push the idea for > chapters to select foundation board members in the first place. For one > thing, there's a very different p

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/02/11 5:28 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: > Just to add to what Illario has said, I think it's important to remember > that most (if not all) chapters are run via a democratic system where the > entire board or committee is elected by its members. Appointing WMF members > to boards would obviousl

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/02/11 1:59 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 9/2/2011 1:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote: >>> *If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical approach >>> might be to designate "observers" who are not given authority but merely sit >>> in with a chapter board. That's assuming that the chap

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Craig Franklin
> > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:43:35 +0200 > From: Ilario Valdelli > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > Message-ID: <4e613ff7.3080...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > On

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Béria Lima
Errata: When i say "Kul", i mean "Barry". Sorry. _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Béria Lima
And Jan-Bart and Kul knows about European and Asia laws? Jean-Bart and Kul can go to General Assemblies? Jean Bart speak the 12-15 languages spoken in European Chapters (i will not even mention how many languages Kul would need to know to be the Asia representant)? Jan-Bart and Kul would decide wha

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 9/2/2011 1:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote: > >> *If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical > approach > >> might be to designate "observers" who are not given authority but merely > sit > >> in with a chapter board. That's as

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Michael Snow
On 9/2/2011 1:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote: >> *If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical approach >> might be to designate "observers" who are not given authority but merely sit >> in with a chapter board. That's assuming that the chapter board level is one >> of the places where

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 02.09.2011 22:02, Michael Snow wrote: > > For those reading whose memories may not be quite long enough - I assume > Florence is referring to Michael Davis here, not to me. The conflict of > interest policy was adopted in 2006, before I was on the board. I just > thought it would help to make th

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Béria Lima
> > *If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical approach > might be to designate "observers" who are not given authority but merely sit > in with a chapter board. That's assuming that the chapter board level is one > of the places where it makes the most sense to add a communic

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Florence Devouard
On 9/2/11 10:02 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 9/2/2011 12:11 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: >> On 9/1/11 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: >>> On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Michael Snow
On 9/2/2011 12:11 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: > On 9/1/11 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: >> On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >>> I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority >>> for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are >>> controlled by B

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 September 2011 20:11, Florence Devouard wrote: > I can not help commenting a bit more on the matter of "conflict of > interest". I think I can probably say more on the matter than most > people here. If I could +1 this message I would. > Our bylaws were changed a few years ago, as to dec

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Theo10011
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > > I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority > > for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are > > controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Florence Devouard
On 9/1/11 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority >> for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are >> controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't think there is an

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Florence Devouard
On 9/1/11 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority >> for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are >> controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't think there is an

[Foundation-l] This Month in GLAM - August 2011

2011-09-02 Thread Sarah Stierch
The August 2011 issue of This Month in GLAM has been published. This issue features news and happenings from: - *USA*: The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, Smithsonian Institution, National Archives and Records Administration, outreach events, collaborative article successes, upcoming

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi, sorry for top posting. A quick historical note, really early on some chapters had a WMF representative with a lot of power. We moved from that next to a lawyer recommandation as it created legal links between WMF and chapters hence increasing the legal risks for all the organizations and t

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Kropotkine_113
Le jeudi 01 septembre 2011 à 16:37 +0100, Jimmy Wales a écrit : > I had never thought of this before, but now that it has been mentioned, > I just wanted to disagree, quite respectfully because Ray is awesome of > course, and say that I think it is a very interesting idea to have a WMF > appoint

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority >> for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are >> controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't thi

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 1 September 2011 16:37, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority >> for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are >> controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't think th

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority > for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are > controlled by Brazilians. At the same time I don't think there is any > value to having a WMF appointee on your