Re: [Foundation-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-14 Thread Tim Starling
On 15/08/11 16:30, David Gerard wrote: > 2011/8/15 David Richfield : >> It's not just financial collapse. When Sun was acquired by Oracle and >> they started messing about with OpenOffice, it was not hard to fork >> the project - take the codebase and run with it. It's not that easy >> for Wikipe

Re: [Foundation-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-14 Thread David Gerard
2011/8/15 David Richfield : > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Tim Starling wrote: >> On 12/08/11 20:55, David Gerard wrote: >>> THESIS: Our inadvertent monopoly is *bad*. We need to make it easy to >>> fork the projects, so as to preserve them. >> I must have missed the place where you actually

Re: [Foundation-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-14 Thread David Richfield
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > On 12/08/11 20:55, David Gerard wrote: >> THESIS: Our inadvertent monopoly is *bad*. We need to make it easy to >> fork the projects, so as to preserve them. > > I must have missed the place where you actually made this case. I > tried reading

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:43:13 +0400, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" wrote: >> == New entities?== >> James Forrester and his group (sorry, I don't remember who was the >> official primus inter pares) presented in/before Haifa a list of new >> kinds of Wikimedia entities: >> * Chapters not based on national b

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> == New entities?== > James Forrester and his group (sorry, I don't remember who was the > official primus inter pares) presented in/before Haifa a list of new > kinds of Wikimedia entities: > * Chapters not based on national boundaries, but subjects such as > railways, art, ethnic cultures, mathe

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Dan Rosenthal
The subject matter "chapters" thing sounds quite a bit like en.wp's Wikiprojects. Dan Rosenthal ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-14 Thread Tim Starling
On 12/08/11 20:55, David Gerard wrote: > THESIS: Our inadvertent monopoly is *bad*. We need to make it easy to > fork the projects, so as to preserve them. I must have missed the place where you actually made this case. I tried reading your blog posts but I didn't see it there. In 2005 you said t

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Juan David Ruiz
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 16:16, Ziko van Dijk wrote: [...] > == Language Contact Person (LCP) == > I would like to suggest a small solution to solve a part of the > problems. Every language version of Wikipedia should designate a > "Language Contact Person" for relations with the Foundation (and

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Let me start by saying that Ziko's "Tell us about your Wikipedia" project was wonderful and i really expect its second edition. If Ziko or someone else doesn't beat me to it, i'll probably just create one myself, with additional questions that interest me ;) I support the idea of language contact

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Theo10011
Hi Ziko I am not sure if I see the point here. There are 2 issues getting conflated here, one is representation of languages between national chapters which I believe, is a much bigger issue. The second issue, where these Language contact persons serve WMF and the movement in talking about local l

[Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear friends, One element of the discussions on "Movement Roles" was about other / new entities within our movement, aside the already existing Foundation and the Chapters, which I prefer to call "national Wikimedia organizations". I would like to present to you here my idea of "Language Contact P

Re: [Foundation-l] Sending announcements to this list

2011-08-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
As Jay is away for a while, I checked… 381. pb Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Tel: (415) 839-6885 | x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org | www.wikimediafoundation.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Nemo wrote: > We need Jay Walsh to check the number of subscribers; they're probably > stil

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 August 2011 13:46, Krinkle wrote: > The thread is about one of the following: > * .. the ability to clone a MediaWiki install and upload it to your own domain > to continue making edits, writing articles etc. > * .. getting better dumps of Wikimedia wikis in particular (ie. Wikipedia) > * .