Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Oliver Moran wrote: > It is a disappointment in some respects that Stack Overflow uses proprietary > software (not least because it is so wonderful) but in all other respects, as > a community, they do a great job. I have had wonderful experiences with them > a

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread aude
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > > The part of our audience that would need the Q&A is not the same as, say, > OpenStreetMap. There you have people using the tool that need a forum to > ask > for help and advice. This we already have in a fairly effective form; > discussion

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread phoebe ayers
Jan -- thanks for your work exploring systems -- I think it's definitely worth trying out for a test and agree it's worth trying to support participation. You note in the bug that there could be different sections for the different projects -- I've also always wanted a meta-focused Q&A site for all

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Thomas Morton
> > but I won't belabour the point :) > Actually I will make one more comment (sorry) :) because I do actually have sound reasoning behind my suggestion beyond just "it's better", and it is only right I lay them out. (I've maintained/operated/implemented a number of Q&A sites for small communiti

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Oliver Moran
Ditto. It is a disappointment in some respects that Stack Overflow uses proprietary software (not least because it is so wonderful) but in all other respects, as a community, they do a great job. I have had wonderful experiences with them and I would urge anyone to get behind them. Whether the

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Kozuch
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ is not enough? No, it is not. Covers English Wikipedia only, is not flexible enough (I doubt experienced users who created the FAQ know exactly what newbies want to ask). It simply is not interactive and has very far to a sophisticated modern help sy

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Thomas Morton
> Is it really that much load on Wikimedia sysops to install a (very simple) > script like OSQA? For the value added it would pay itself quickly off. But > this goes down to resource allocations and innovation potential at the > Foundation, which I can not understand most of the time... > It's sim

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Kozuch
Is it really that much load on Wikimedia sysops to install a (very simple) script like OSQA? For the value added it would pay itself quickly off. But this goes down to resource allocations and innovation potential at the Foundation, which I can not understand most of the time... >

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Thomas Morton
> True. But we don't need to use proprietary software for this. Why? Honest question; SE has sensible ideals and license their content well. Why add to the workload of our sysops and developers with another system to maintain and support We do Wiki's really well. SE do Q&A extremely well...

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Oliver Moran wrote: > I would absolutely recommend Stack Exchange. The software is far more > suitable for community Q&A than Mediawiki. The Stack Exchange network of > sites also share much of the free content and community spirit of Wikimedia. > For example, Q

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Kozuch
Stack Exchange is nice, has an acceptable CC-BY-SA license too, but I would host the content ourselves. Looks like SE uses OSQA anyways. Please see my bug 29923 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29923) for software options for Wikimedia: I made a (very quick) research on open sour

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Oliver Moran
I would absolutely recommend Stack Exchange. The software is far more suitable for community Q&A than Mediawiki. The Stack Exchange network of sites also share much of the free content and community spirit of Wikimedia. For example, Q&As are licensed under CC-BY-SA and the sites are community ru

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Thomas Morton
There was a push to launch a stackexchange site relating to Wikipedia a few months back. It's currently in the commitment phase - needing people to commit to seeding it. SE is a proven QA platform; so worth considering. Tom Morton On 21 Jul 2011, at 21:00, Samuel Klein wrote: > This is a good

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Samuel Klein
This is a good idea. They are using OSQA, yes? SJ On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) wrote: > Hi there, > > I propose to start a Q&A system within Wikimedis. We need a central place for > help. Getting an advise is too complicated now if a person has very diverse > question

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Béria Lima
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ is not enough? _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer

[Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-21 Thread Kozuch
Hi there, I propose to start a Q&A system within Wikimedis. We need a central place for help. Getting an advise is too complicated now if a person has very diverse questions, he/she needs to look for various wiki discussion pages. Not very easy for newbies. Could be inspired by the help site of

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-21 Thread David Gerard
On the subject of organisations that attempt to enclose the public domain: Do we have the proceedings of the Royal Society 1600-1923 on Wikimedia servers, as we quite definitely should? What's in progress along these lines? - d. ___ foundation-l mailin