Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 88, Issue 19

2011-07-09 Thread Robin McCain
If I might interject, it seems that the sole purpose of the snail mail described is to link a physical person to a login name in such a way that there is some accountability for one's actions that is acceptable to the organization. Is it really necessary to copy an identity document? Could a do

Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-09 Thread Phil Nash
Fred Bauder wrote: >> If only I could be so sanguine; I cannot disagree with Fred's first >> paragraph, but as regards his second I must take issue. For a start, >> current >> events should be covered by Wikinews, and subsequent *encyclopedic" >> treatment of those events be dealt with in analytic

Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-09 Thread Fred Bauder
> If only I could be so sanguine; I cannot disagree with Fred's first > paragraph, but as regards his second I must take issue. For a start, > current > events should be covered by Wikinews, and subsequent *encyclopedic" > treatment of those events be dealt with in analytic terms and in > retrospec

Re: [Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-09 Thread Phil Nash
If only I could be so sanguine; I cannot disagree with Fred's first paragraph, but as regards his second I must take issue. For a start, current events should be covered by Wikinews, and subsequent *encyclopedic" treatment of those events be dealt with in analytic terms and in retrospect, by Wi

[Foundation-l] They do make or break reputations

2011-07-09 Thread Fred Bauder
Speaking of the British tabloids, of course. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/world/europe/10britain.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=globasasa2 The lesson for us is to not take a leading position, be topical, but to report events which have occurred and on which there is some sort of considered opi

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 9, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: > 2011/7/9 > >> Snip > >> Having a corpus with some depth on Wikisource will open up a much different >> reading experience than an index of PDFs, even though the words all match. >> Just look at what is being done with the SCOTUS documents,

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
2011/7/9 > You hardly need to re-transcribe the digital document. You just need to > re-format the images and special text within the paste, edit in appropriate > wikilinks, and proofread it to ensure nothing was misplaced. > Yes, this is true, but as you know well this already much work. If yo

Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome Tilman Bayer to the Wikimedia Foundation

2011-07-09 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 08/07/11 19:25, Jay Walsh wrote: > It's with great pleasure that I announce a longtime Wikipedian and > accomplished Wikimedia project supporter, Tilman Bayer (User:HaeB) has > agreed to join the Wikimedia Foundation Yeah This is a really great news \o/ -- Ashar Voultoiz __

Re: [Foundation-l] Question: Elmer Fudd Wikipedia?

2011-07-09 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2011/7/9 Fae : > Hi, > > Presumably the joke site http://wikien4.appspot.com/wiki is not an > agreed use of the Wikipedia logo? I suspect it may fail the license > terms under "Indicate changes". > Yesss... this the same person who made our "un-ortographic" mirror of Polish Wikipedia... http://or

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread Lodewijk
Just to give this a bit of context, without taking any position: On the Dutch Wikipedia, you can get blocked for sockpuppet abuse. This block has an infinite length because the opinion of the community has been that sockpuppet abuse is unacceptable. This has happened to Huib - it was concluded he

[Foundation-l] Question: Elmer Fudd Wikipedia?

2011-07-09 Thread Fae
Hi, Presumably the joke site http://wikien4.appspot.com/wiki is not an agreed use of the Wikipedia logo? I suspect it may fail the license terms under "Indicate changes". Cheers, Fae -- http://enwp.org/user_talk:fae Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/faetags ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Gerard, 09/07/2011 12:46: > On 9 July 2011 11:02, Béria Lima wrote: > >> The WMF is not responsible for private mails you send to anyone. The only >> people who "officialy" can receive a copy of any ID you may have are >> Philippe, >> C

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread Fae
If there is any advice on the Dutch Wikipedia that users have to send in a copy of their passport to anyone, including OTRS, then it should be removed. In most cases of interest, OTRS agents can confirm identity by checking that a source email matches an official registered domain or that it is the

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 July 2011 11:02, Béria Lima wrote: > The WMF is not responsible for private mails you send to anyone. The only > people who "officialy" can receive a copy of any ID you may have are > Philippe , > Christine

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread Béria Lima
Huib, The WMF is not responsible for private mails you send to anyone. The only people who "officialy" can receive a copy of any ID you may have are Philippe , Christineor Megan

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread Huib Laurens
The rather big deal for me is that when i edit a Wikimedia project there is a privacy policy, and next to that there is a policy that only people who identified themselfs to the foundation can handle non-public date. I guess that there this is the case also. So wouldn't it be more secure and insid

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If you do not trust the person involved, you are crazy to send him a copy of your passport. This is a common sense. This policy as it obviously works.. what is really your issue ? Do we really need a theoretical approach that only can bring us less functionality ? I do not think so. Thanks,

[Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello, I want to know if there is a privacy concern on the Dutch Wikipedia. The short story: When you got blocked on the Dutch Wikipedia for socking you can remove the block by sending a copy of your passport to a user thats trusted by the community. After he checks your passport or all the pass

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-09 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 6 July 2011 21:29, Arlen Beiler wrote: > >> Once it is published, can't it just go to Wikisource? Or would it have to be >> CC-By or something like that. If so, Wikisource would still be the best >> suited for that, we would just have to p