Re: [Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 22:08, Chris Lee wrote: > It lasted only a minute. I apologize for the urgent email sent out; wanted > to make sure that it was taken care of What was it that lasted only a minute, Chris? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?

It lasted only a minute. I apologize for the urgent email sent out; wanted to make sure that it was taken care of On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Fajro wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Chris Lee > wrote: > > Umm, what just happened to wikipedia? > > Seems normal to me. > > -- > Fajro

Re: [Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Chris Lee wrote: > Umm, what just happened to wikipedia? Seems normal to me. -- Fajro ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-

[Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?

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Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On Friday, June 17, 2011, Patricio Lorente wrote: > Congratulations to Ting, SJ and Kat! Thank you Patricio, and all who shared congratulations. This is a tricky time for the projects and the Foundation - we are squarely facing a drop in participation for the first time. Among other things, we

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

I am a bit biased since I have a project to add a trust metric on mediawiki but I think that content ownership is important. It lets us evaluate the content without reading it which is important to most of us who are only experts on one subject. Of course that poses the question why Knol didnt succ

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Congratulations to Ting, SJ and Kat! I'm sure you are going to keep on the good work and to address some of the things that have been said in this election. Good luck! Patricio -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @pat

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Hello all, at first thank you all for take part in the election, especially to the volunteers on the Elections Committee. As most of organizing-an-event-job, there are always a lot of work that the attendees of the events don't necessarily see. I also want to thank everyone who take part in th

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On 17 June 2011 16:19, Alec Conroy wrote: > I suspect the board will recruit, formally or informally, the top n > runners-up to help provide the usual "new blood"ish infusion that a > normal election result provides.    The global community wants to keep > the keys in the current hands, but it di

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Congrats to the winners! What a great team. BTW, we are going to be organizing a new conference the first weekend of november in Prishtina, again, skf11 the third edition. It would be great to get some speakers from wikimedia, we have had milos, gerardm (in vlore, albania at the partner event free

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On 17/06/2011 18:20, Jon Harald Søby wrote: > > As I wrote in the board report, I think the elections would benefit from a > semi-permanent committee, instead of an election-by-election-based > committee. This would help counter repeats of the same mistakes, and > smoothen things out. This year no

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

First, congratulations to reelected Board members! As a steward and member of some committees, I had very good cooperation with them, and I am sure that we'll have in the future, too. Second, I would like to thank to all of those who voted for me and especially to all of those who didn't. I couldn

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

2011/6/17 Joan Goma > Congratulations to Ting Chen, Samuel Klein, and Kat Walsh on your > reelection > you have gained again the confidence of the editors so they are reasonably > happy whit things as they are I wish you continue doing this great job and > keeping their confidence. > > Thanks to

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Thank you all for your congratulations and your support! (And congratulations to the rest of the candidates, whose leadership and dedication are obvious in chapters, committees, and other projects; I look forward to continuing to work with you.) Cheers, Kat -- Your donations keep Wikipedia onli

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On 06/17/2011 10:54 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > Results are out. > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Results/en Congratulations on the incumbents for their reelections. I must admit that I am simultaneously disappointed and a little bit relieved that I wasn't elected. It's a toug

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Congrats Ting, Sj and Kat ... Well deserved. I personally wished to see at least one new face, though. :) Regards Tinu Cherian On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > Results are out. > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Results/en > > > Theo > > On Fri, Jun 17,

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Congratulations to Ting Chen, Samuel Klein, and Kat Walsh on your reelection you have gained again the confidence of the editors so they are reasonably happy whit things as they are I wish you continue doing this great job and keeping their confidence. Thanks to all the other candidates for making

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Alec Conroy wrote: > I suspect the board will recruit, formally or informally, the top n > runners-up to help provide the usual "new blood"ish infusion that a > normal election result provides.    The global community wants to keep > the keys in the current hands,

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Harel Cain wrote: > One thing the board might want to concern itself with now is how to allow > for more change in the next elections, in other words how to counteract the > built-in advantages of the incumbent(s), which in the board elections is > even bigger than

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

> Congrats Ting, Sj and Kat on your re-election. Congrats to all the participants, particularly the three re-elected incumbents: I think this was the single most predictable single outcome-- we can poke and prod individual candidates, but collectively, _as a board_ , they've never done anything to

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Congratulations!! and thanks for the fun experience of running for the board... One thing the board might want to concern itself with now is how to allow for more change in the next elections, in other words how to counteract the built-in advantages of the incumbent(s), which in the board election

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On 6/17/2011 7:54 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > Results are out. > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Results/en Congratulations to Ting, SJ, and Kat, I'm glad that you will be continuing in your good work! Thanks also to the election committee, and just to remind them that they are n

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

On 6/17/11, Strainu wrote: > I think that such a policy could not be fundamentally different in > other languages, since they all have the same license. However, the > wording could be improved, for instance by explaining WHY one cannot > consider himself as the owner of an article: by accepting t

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Congrats Ting, Sj and Kat on your re-election. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Results are out. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/Results/en Theo On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Harel Cain wrote: > I only want to rephrase what I said back at the beginning of the thread: > it's perfectly understandable if things run late (huh, Wikimania taught me > thi

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

I only want to rephrase what I said back at the beginning of the thread: it's perfectly understandable if things run late (huh, Wikimania taught me this first hand). It's just that little one-sentence update on the results page that was missing and would have spared us this thread. Now, some more

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011/6/17 Peter Gervai : > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 15:24, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> In such cases, as an Israeli saying goes, i am right, but i am not >> clever. It hurts that person and it hurts the project, because that >> person may otherwise be a very valuable contributor and such things >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:05 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Domas Mituzas wrote: >>> I'm told volunteers are capable of editing wiki pages and posting to >>> mailing lists. I haven't been able to independently verify this, though. >> >> I'm told that some volunteers can be extremely obnoxious too. > > Eh,

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Domas Mituzas wrote: >> I'm told volunteers are capable of editing wiki pages and posting to >> mailing lists. I haven't been able to independently verify this, though. > > I'm told that some volunteers can be extremely obnoxious too. Eh, don't be so hard on yourself. Sometimes you have something

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On 6/17/2011 10:01 AM, Austin Hair wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede > wrote: >> As the Board Liaison for the election committee I would like to ask for a >> little more patience on their behalf. >> >> Our chosen election system has several checks and balances and it d

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > As the Board Liaison for the election committee I would like to ask for a > little more patience on their behalf. > > Our chosen election system has several checks and balances and it does not > help matters that we are making use of a

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Fully agreed :) On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Nathan wrote: > > Perfectly reasonable. Best way to forestall criticism in future > elections is to just be open and communicative -- before the results > are late. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > Hi > > Just to make sure we don't jump to the wrong conclusion. > > This is my fourth Board election. Every time we have relied on Software in > the Public Interest (http://www.spi-inc.org/) do be the trusted third party. > Every time

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Hi Just to make sure we don't jump to the wrong conclusion. This is my fourth Board election. Every time we have relied on Software in the Public Interest (http://www.spi-inc.org/) do be the trusted third party. Every time they have been extremely fast and flexible in their volunteer services

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 15:24, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > In such cases, as an Israeli saying goes, i am right, but i am not > clever. It hurts that person and it hurts the project, because that > person may otherwise be a very valuable contributor and such things > often make people resign. And eve

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Hi! > I'm told volunteers are capable of editing wiki pages and posting to mailing > lists. I haven't been able to independently verify this, though. I'm told that some volunteers can be extremely obnoxious too. Domas ___ foundation-l mailing list fou

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On 6/17/2011 9:31 AM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > As the Board Liaison for the election committee I would like to ask for a > little more patience on their behalf. > > Our chosen election system has several checks and balances and it does not > help matters that we are making

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Hello Everyone, As the Board Liaison for the election committee I would like to ask for a little more patience on their behalf. Our chosen election system has several checks and balances and it does not help matters that we are making use of an independent third party and are spread out acros

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2011/6/17 MZMcBride : >> The Election Committee seems to have completely dropped the ball, either in >> setting an unrealistic deadline and/or in not effectively communicating why >> it's been unable to meet the deadline. > > It may be true, but please calm down. They are

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Update from Mardetanha: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=2669988&oldid=2669838&rcid=2608446 "As far as I can say, we are very hopeful that we can announce the results within several hours, we are almost done *Mardetanha* talk

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011/6/17 Lodewijk : > I guess that Amir was rather referring to the cultural aspect than the legal > aspect. You guessed correctly. > Amir, is there a specific background that you are thinking of which is why > you are asking this? Maybe that helps people answering your question. Nothing in par

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

2011/6/17 Austin Hair : > It's now the afternoon of the 17th (UTC), and this list—of which I > have the dubious distinction of being custodian—hasn't seen a single > thread about the WMF board election results. > > I'm honestly not sure if I should be proud of or disappointed with you > guys. Prou

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:56, David Gerard wrote: >> use case for a project like Knol, which was advertised as "Wikipedia >> killer" once, but didn't grow much. > > > Minor note: as far as I know, *no-one* from Knol/Google ever claimed > it had anything to do with WIkipedia. The entire notion ap

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

I've had a go at some basic editing to the [[WP:OWN]] page to try and explain a bit better, rather than simply saying "IF YOU EDIT, YOU DO NOT OWN THE PAGE!" It still needs considerable work. Eyeballs and improvements...? FT2 On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mai

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Yes, I find this situation, especially on the part of the election committee, as something between a sign of disrespect and a sign of indifference. I think the thousands of voters and the 19 candidates, who have spent a lot of time in their pursuing their candidacy, deserve better than this. Can s

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 87, Issue 48

It is indeed a bit late for having results, I just hope it doesn't depend from the fact they are recounting the votes in Florida... :-D Ferdinando Scala - Messaggio originale - Da: "foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org" A: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Inviato: Ven 17 giugno

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Austin Hair wrote: > What are the results, and why haven't they been released yet? Matanya wrote: > I'm really sorry no word was said until now, but we have some technical > problems. We have been working on them for last 24h, and hope they are > solved. I hope (no guarantees), that results will b

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

Latest update from the election officials: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABoard_elections%2F2011&action=historysubmit&diff=2667116&oldid=2666426 * * Tom * * On 17 June 2011 12:53, Austin Hair wrote: > It's now the afternoon of the 17th (UTC), and this list—of which I > have th

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

On 17 June 2011 12:29, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > That could be a good > use case for a project like Knol, which was advertised as "Wikipedia > killer" once, but didn't grow much. Minor note: as far as I know, *no-one* from Knol/Google ever claimed it had anything to do with WIkipedia. The entir

[Foundation-l] Election results?

It's now the afternoon of the 17th (UTC), and this list—of which I have the dubious distinction of being custodian—hasn't seen a single thread about the WMF board election results. I'm honestly not sure if I should be proud of or disappointed with you guys. In any case, I beg your forgiveness when

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

I guess that Amir was rather referring to the cultural aspect than the legal aspect. Even if you are legally allowed to change something, that doesnt mean the original author likes it. I assume that all Wiki projects have this culture in them, that nobody "owns" an article - this doesn't mean howev

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011/6/17 Strainu : > Think about a CC-BY-NC-ND wiki. Theoretically, one > could only add content to that wiki, not edit what has already been > written. Actually, I'm not even sure you could add content to articles on a CC-BY-NC-ND wiki. Would have to check with a lawyer... Strainu

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011/6/17 Amir E. Aharoni : > 2011/6/17 Strainu : >> I think that such a policy could not be fundamentally different in >> other languages, since they all have the same license. However, the >> wording could be improved, for instance by explaining WHY one cannot >> consider himself as the owner of

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011/6/17 Strainu : > I think that such a policy could not be fundamentally different in > other languages, since they all have the same license. However, the > wording could be improved, for instance by explaining WHY one cannot > consider himself as the owner of an article: by accepting the CC-BY

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

I think that such a policy could not be fundamentally different in other languages, since they all have the same license. However, the wording could be improved, for instance by explaining WHY one cannot consider himself as the owner of an article: by accepting the CC-BY-SA license, one gives up a

[Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

The problem of content ownership hits any wiki at some point. In the English Wikipedia it is governed by a policy called "WP:OWN" [1]. There's a similar policy in the Hebrew Wikipedia. Is this policy any different in other projects? I am asking, because i agree with the English Wikipedia's policy