Re: [Foundation-l] Draft Legal Policies - Wikimedia Foundation

2011-05-19 Thread MZMcBride
Geoff Brigham wrote: > The Office of General Counsel (OGC) has drafted OGC staff policies that may > be of interest to the Community. They are in "beta" version now, and, if > you'd like, you should feel free to leave any comments on the discussion > page. There is also an FAQ. You can find them at

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread MZMcBride
Steven Walling wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Theo10011 wrote: >> Also, we need a page on Meta where any future requests could be placed and >> voted on, the current logging page for central notice could eventually be >> replaced with it. > > Just speaking for myself, I think voting t

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
On 05/19/2011 07:13 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Until most recently, it >> has been displayed on every single page view for most of our 400 Million >> readers or so, according to the setup for 20 days >> > > > F

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > Also, we need a page on Meta where any future requests could be placed and > voted on, the current logging page for central notice could eventually be > replaced with it. > Just speaking for myself, I think voting to pre-approve every non-fund

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Philippe Beaudette wrote: > > Factually incorrect: it displayed to every reader for only 3 days. It > then > > switched (as was always planned) to logged in users only. > > Planned where and by whom? > > MZMcBride > The Board Elections committ

[Foundation-l] Draft Legal Policies - Wikimedia Foundation

2011-05-19 Thread Geoff Brigham
Hi all, The Office of General Counsel (OGC) has drafted OGC staff policies that may be of interest to the Community. They are in “beta” version now, and, if you'd like, you should feel free to leave any comments on the discussion page. There is also an FAQ. You can find them at: http://meta.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Theo10011
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:11 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Theo10011 wrote: > > Currently, there are no clear guidelines on the community's use of > > central-notice - multiple geo-located, chapter-requested campaigns have > been > > running on central-notice without objection. Global-banners have been

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread MZMcBride
Theo10011 wrote: > Currently, there are no clear guidelines on the community's use of > central-notice - multiple geo-located, chapter-requested campaigns have been > running on central-notice without objection. Global-banners have been used > for things like the March/May update and for soliciting

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread MZMcBride
Philippe Beaudette wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml googlemail.com> wrote: >> Until most recently, it >> has been displayed on every single page view for most of our 400 Million >> readers or so, according to the setup for 20 days > > Factually incorrect: it displayed

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Thomas Morton
That would be great :) I did have a look when researching for the board elections but couldn't find any hard figures. Tom/ErrantX On 19 May 2011 18:15, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Thomas Morton < > morton.tho...@googlemail.com > > wrote: > > > It could well be

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: > It could well be that an image banner does improve > click through and (in the case of the fund raiser) donations... but I can't > find any actual A/B tests (or any other tests) to see if this is actually > the case or not. > It does. We

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: > Until most recently, it > has been displayed on every single page view for most of our 400 Million > readers or so, according to the setup for 20 days > Factually incorrect: it displayed to every reader for only 3 days. It then switc

Re: [Foundation-l] Very slow load time for the last few days

2011-05-19 Thread Sarah
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:59, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Sarah wrote: >> Could someone from the Foundation or one of the developers say whether this >> is being looked into? > > I've requested an assessment of the current situation and will post > more to this thread

Re: [Foundation-l] Very slow load time for the last few days

2011-05-19 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Sarah wrote: > Could someone from the Foundation or one of the developers say whether this > is being looked into? I've requested an assessment of the current situation and will post more to this thread when I hear back, unless someone beats me to it. -- Erik Möl

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
On 05/19/2011 05:59 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > A better alternative, in my opinion, would be editor-facing pages such as > watchlists, noticeboards, etc. Feature already exists, via Javascript: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/watchlist.js Perhaps make it a core feature of Centra

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Theo10011
I asked Mono to announce POTY centralnotice use on Foundation-l after he made a request on Meta. The only consensus to MZ's RfC on Meta [1] was that Global banners could be used for Non-fundraising reasons after consensus is achieved for the proposal and the banner itself on Meta first. Currently,

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Mono mium
The POTY banner was announced on this list with no objections. On Thursday, May 19, 2011, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: > Hi all, > > Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed > there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board > elections and comm

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread John
Its become so obnoxious I have used Ad-block plus's rules to prevent it from loading, because I got sick if having half my screen taken over with obnoxious banners that I really dont like seeing, Watchlist notices given their low intrusion levels work a lot better. John On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 05/19/2011 05:42 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Milos Rancic > wrote: > >> On 05/19/2011 10:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: > >>> 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for > >

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, When we have a POTY contest or board elections, that is certainly not very exciting for non Wikimedians. But when the picture of the year is actually chosen? And when the WMF publishes an annual report written for the public? We had the problem with the site notice on nl.wp recently when w

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Milos Rancic
On 05/19/2011 05:42 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> On 05/19/2011 10:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: >>> 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for >>> information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY,

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 05/19/2011 10:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: > > 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for > > information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc. > > Agreed with this in relation to the Boa

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Milos Rancic
On 05/19/2011 10:52 AM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: > 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for > information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc. Agreed with this in relation to the Board elections. Just users with accounts are able to vote or to be

[Foundation-l] translating POTY

2011-05-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I asked this in another thread, but didn't get a response. The POTY banner appears on English-language projects. Why wasn't there a request to translate it as it usually happens with such banners? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com "We're living in pi

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread MZMcBride
Orionist wrote: > I thought these notices *are* displayed for logged-in users only, if they > aren't, then they should. At least the POTY notice doesn't show up for me > when I'm logged out. It would also help if certain votes/etc. could be targeted to only eligible voters. For example, if a vote

Re: [Foundation-l] Very slow load time for the last few days

2011-05-19 Thread Marc Riddell
I posted this on the English WP on April 11: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2011-April/108899.html The responses I received suggested it might be a problem with my provider. I spoke with a Comcast tech. She considered the problem and concluded that I needed to clear my cache & cook

Re: [Foundation-l] Very slow load time for the last few days

2011-05-19 Thread John
The first reported cases where May 9th. Its been intermittent since then. John On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Sarah wrote: > Could someone from the Foundation or one of the developers say whether this > is being looked into? > > Sarah > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:28, Thomas Morton > wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Very slow load time for the last few days

2011-05-19 Thread Sarah
Could someone from the Foundation or one of the developers say whether this is being looked into? Sarah On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:28, Thomas Morton wrote: > Yeh, that was when it was turned on. So maybe :) > > On 18 May 2011 19:27, Sarah wrote: > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:24, Theo10011 w

Re: [Foundation-l] IRC Group Contacts Chairship handover

2011-05-19 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Sean, thanks for your work in the past years! Although you say it was unimportant, I think one of your values is that you managed to keep it that way. Infrastructure that goes well and can be relied upon often is confused with unimportant. Nonetheless we Wikimedians manage often to talk for lon

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Morton, 19/05/2011 12:50: > Also; Part of the problem is how it loads (i.e. as pointed out elsewhere the > page can "jump" as the notice suddenly appears). If that could be fixed that > would be one of my main concerns addressed :) By the way, it's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cg

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Thomas Morton
I think using images for the POTY competition is also justifiable, :) given the context. But, yes, images need to be considered carefully. As I recently mentioned on Meta - we could really do with some reasearch into the effectiveness of different sized images as compared to text for click through

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Orionist
I thought these notices *are* displayed for logged-in users only, if they aren't, then they should. At least the POTY notice doesn't show up for me when I'm logged out. I agree with you in regards to the use of images, and I think it should be constrained to fundraising banners. "Size and intrusiv

[Foundation-l] IRC Group Contacts Chairship handover

2011-05-19 Thread Sean Whitton
I’m not a very active Wikimedian at the moment (though hopefully someday I shall return) and so the time has come to handover my chairship of the IRC Group Contacts. I am ceding it to Casey Brown, but this is just a formality, and really it is both Filip and Casey who I leave in charge of Wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:56 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:52 PM, church.of.emacs.ml > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed >> there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board >> elections and com

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Thomas Morton
A way to tie clicking "hide" to an *account* rather than just by storing it as a local cookie would also be a good move. Tom / ErrantX On 19 May 2011 10:36, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > church.of.emacs.ml, 19/05/2011 10:52: > > There are several ways of minimizing negative effects: > > 1. Disp

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
church.of.emacs.ml, 19/05/2011 10:52: > There are several ways of minimizing negative effects: > 1. Display it for logged-in users only. This is especially useful for > information concerning active Wikimedians, e.g. Wikimania, POTY, etc. > 2. Reduce weight - don't display a banner on every page vi

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks for bringing this up, Tobias. I have been pondering about the same, and the thinking points you give sound sensible. I would like to add another, which might seem obvious, and that is geo- and project targeting. Do you really need centralnotice on all projects, or only on a few. Because of

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Strainu
2011/5/19 church.of.emacs.ml : > 2. Reduce weight - don't display a banner on every page view, but only > on one in ten. (We have to use blank banners to do that, right?[3]) > 3. Reduce duration. (e.g. Don't display banners for a month, only a week) I think such measures would bring more complain

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/5/19 church.of.emacs.ml > > Hi all, > > Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed > there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board > elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to > the audience. ... And since you

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread K. Peachey
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:52 PM, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: > Hi all, > > Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed > there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board > elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to > the a

[Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
Hi all, Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to the audience. Take for example one of the most recent banners about candid