Re: [Foundation-l] Turn the things the other way around "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution"

2011-04-24 Thread Joan Goma
As Ray saids legal prosecution to claim for formal accomplishing of the copyright terms is expensive and difficult. But the same happens the other way around. I would like to have a clear legal opinion about applying the terms without going to court. They have copied articles from Chinese Wikiped

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread HW
Chinese Wikipedian is not required Baidu to give them money, but: 1. Remove the copyright violation materials 2. Change Baidu Baike to CC-by-sa in order they don't want to remove 3. Block the editor who copy content from Wikipedia HW 寄件人﹕ Ray Saintonge 收件人﹕ Wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread HW
Because some website push out the un-released press release and Baidu give response on it. Baidu reply that it is not truth and request people don't talk about it anymore.   Baidu is request to post a notice for stock market. However, we have not yet send out the press release and so far Baidu

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 04/24/11 9:35 AM, David Gerard wrote: > Baidu Baike clearly have a considerable potential liability in terms > of violation of copyright, including under Chinese law (assuming CC > by-sa holds up). > > If they're traded on the stock market in Hong Kong (or anywhere else) > - have they filed appr

Re: [Foundation-l] A designer? (was: Better user experience and retention through e-mail notifications)

2011-04-24 Thread Lennart Guldbrandsson
Glad you guys brought this question up as I am working on rewriting one of the things right now. See further discussioner here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Welcome_email All suggestions and tweaks are welcome. Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrands

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread David Gerard
Baidu Baike clearly have a considerable potential liability in terms of violation of copyright, including under Chinese law (assuming CC by-sa holds up). If they're traded on the stock market in Hong Kong (or anywhere else) - have they filed appropriate notices with the relevant financial oversigh

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread HW
Village Pump on zh Wikipedia, on http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/WP:VPM#.E8.81.AF.E7.BD.B2.E8.87.B3.E7.99.BE.E5.BA.A6.E4.BF.A1.E4.BB.B6.E3.80.81.E6.96.B0.E9.97.BB.E7.A8.BF and it is still planning and it have not yet been send out to media. Also it is not a foundation press release but only a C

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread Thomas Dalton
I'm sorry, where was the decision made to write a press release? I'm really not sure that's the best approach. What attempts at direct communication have been attempted so far? On 24 April 2011 09:45, WereSpielChequers wrote: > 16,000,000 out of 3,000,000 articles sounds high to me, it would mean

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread HW
Baidu Baike do not translate the content copy from ENWP or JAWP. See an example of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._E._Cummings and http://baike.baidu.com/view/1401453.html , thank you. Also, a new draft of the press release, without murge your text:   Baidu B

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread HW
It should be 1600. Sorry for this. HW 寄件人﹕ WereSpielChequers 收件人﹕ foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 傳送日期﹕ 2011/4/24 (日) 4:45:11 PM 主題: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft 16,000

[Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

2011-04-24 Thread WereSpielChequers
16,000,000 out of 3,000,000 articles sounds high to me, it would mean over 500% of it was copyvio. Could that be individual edits? Otherwise I suggest: day mon, 2011 Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org), a non-profit project run by the Wikimedia Foundation, uses an open licence but with some term

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft / 百度百科多次侵犯維基百科版權之新聞稿及至百度信件草擬本

2011-04-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
HW, 24/04/2011 06:05: > Baidu Baike started in April 2006, and has included 3 million more articles > now. > However, Wikipedian's investigation shows that among these articles more than > 16,000,000 were copied from Chinese, English or Japenese Wikipedia,[...] There's something wrong here (perha