Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Nikola Smolenski
> 2011/2/21 David Gerard: >> No-one has ever worked out how to do derivatives of GFDL-licensed >> internet video that all agree is in full compliance with the GFDL. >> Display the full 23 kilobytes of licence text in video at the end? Perhaps we could learn something from medicine commercials :D

Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness (was: Missing Wikipedians: An Essay)

2011-02-21 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Renata St wrote: >> >> This is to some degree a question of balance in approach. >> >> Every day, thousands of absolutely idiotic, non notable articles get >> started that really have no point or hope.  Every day, new page >> patrollers find (most) of those, and th

Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness (was: Missing Wikipedians: An Essay)

2011-02-21 Thread Renata St
> > This is to some degree a question of balance in approach. > > Every day, thousands of absolutely idiotic, non notable articles get > started that really have no point or hope. Every day, new page > patrollers find (most) of those, and they go "kerpoof". It would > largely be a waste of time t

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Teofilo
2011/2/21 geni : (...) >> I was thinking about a Powerpoint presentation. > > Well yes thats rather the problem. There are also slideshows with > actual physical slides. I've got some around somewhere. > > -- > geni People who work with actual physical slides are unlikely to incorporate contents f

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Teofilo
2011/2/21 geni : > On 21 February 2011 19:45, Teofilo wrote: >> 2011/2/21 geni : >> >>> Can't images are again CC-BY-SA and not compatible >> >> What if the Creative Commons guru issues a statement saying that TVL >> is Creative Commons 4.0 ? > > Why on earth should they do that? > > CC has actual

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread geni
On 21 February 2011 19:45, Teofilo wrote: > 2011/2/21 geni : > >> Can't images are again CC-BY-SA and not compatible > > What if the Creative Commons guru issues a statement saying that TVL > is Creative Commons 4.0 ? Why on earth should they do that? CC has actual lawyers and people who think a

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread geni
On 21 February 2011 19:39, Teofilo wrote: > 2011/2/21 geni : > (...) >>> What is more complicated is what happens in a movie theatre. In my >>> opinion, the theatre owner should tell the viewers where the movie is >>> available for download on the internet. >> >> Look at you. You are stuck in one

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Teofilo
2011/2/20 phoebe ayers : > Everyone, let us keep the agricultural rhetoric to a minimum please. > > regards, > phoebe Sorry. That must have been a side-effect of the Paris International Agricultural Show 2011 being held until the end of this week. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Teofilo
2011/2/21 geni : > Can't images are again CC-BY-SA and not compatible What if the Creative Commons guru issues a statement saying that TVL is Creative Commons 4.0 ? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Teofilo
2011/2/21 geni : (...) >> What is more complicated is what happens in a movie theatre. In my >> opinion, the theatre owner should tell the viewers where the movie is >> available for download on the internet. > > Look at you. You are stuck in one mode of thinking. Why should a web > based version o

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we even know if there is a Gender Gap

2011-02-21 Thread Fred Bauder
> We have heard a great deal lately about a "gender gap". Is there really a > gender gap? With 93% of editor not marking there gender known per > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-14/News_and_notes > might it just be that female editors prefer to keep the

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we even know if there is a Gender Gap

2011-02-21 Thread Andrew Gray
On 21 February 2011 17:49, James Heilman wrote: > We have heard a great deal lately about a "gender gap". Is there really a > gender gap? With 93% of editor not marking there gender known per > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-14/News_and_notes > might

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we even know if there is a Gender Gap

2011-02-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are no benefits to indicate gender for the English language at the moment. There is for Russian and the consequence is obvious. There is no reason to believe that there is any other reason for there being more women in the ru.wp then there being a benefit. Thanks, GerardM On 21 Fe

Re: [Foundation-l] Missing Wikipedians: An Essay

2011-02-21 Thread WJhonson
Ral I know you'd like to give the benefit of good faith to all admins. However, if we actually have admins who are deleting articles so quickly that they fat-finger the *reasons* then we have a serious problem. No thinkee is quite close to admin abuse. As a community we should be bending over

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread geni
On 21 February 2011 13:14, Teofilo wrote: > A video has been released by a creator who intends it for > free-software-like distribution: do you think it is good to allow > reusers to display this video on the internet with an embedded player > without a download link ? My understanding is that th

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we even know if there is a Gender Gap

2011-02-21 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Pedro Sanchez wrote: > > If you take those numbers as unbiased estimators of sampled > population, you come to the conclusion (from page5, 1st doc) that > Wikipedia has the mindboggling amount of.. 200 thousand readers. And no, I'm not talking about number of peo

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we even know if there is a Gender Gap

2011-02-21 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:49 AM, James Heilman wrote: > We have heard a great deal lately about a "gender gap". Is there really a > gender gap? With 93% of editor not marking there gender known per > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-14/News_and_notes >

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread geni
On 21 February 2011 16:50, Teofilo wrote: > On the internet, it is easy to copy the text in small fonts or in a > collapsible drop-down menu, or if you are lazy, provide a hyperlink to > 0http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.html . Except the legality of the former is questionable and the latter almos

[Foundation-l] Do we even know if there is a Gender Gap

2011-02-21 Thread James Heilman
We have heard a great deal lately about a "gender gap". Is there really a gender gap? With 93% of editor not marking there gender known per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-14/News_and_notes might it just be that female editors prefer to keep there gende

[Foundation-l] Ponts to Ponder

2011-02-21 Thread Marc Riddell
All, Familiar points to ponder. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/us/politics/21civility.html?nl=todaysheadl ines&emc=tha23 Marc ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/f

[Foundation-l] Points to Ponder

2011-02-21 Thread Marc Riddell
All, Familiar points to ponder. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/us/politics/21civility.html?nl=todaysheadl ines&emc=tha23 Marc ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Teofilo
2011/2/21 David Gerard : > On 21 February 2011 13:14, Teofilo wrote: > >> For the time being, the less bad licenses for videos are the "Licence >> art libre" with "specify to the recipient where to access the >> originals (either initial or subsequent)" (1) (but it is not clear if >> the word "rec

Re: [Foundation-l] FW: [Gendergap] Nine Reasons Women Don't Edit Wikipedia

2011-02-21 Thread SlimVirgin
>> On 20 February 2011 14:24, Marc Riddell wrote: >> >>> Sue, as you know, this is the area of my greatest concern regarding the >>> future of the Wikipedia Project. The gender gap is a part of the larger >>> problem you described above: That of a combative, hostile and defensive >>> culture that

Re: [Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

2011-02-21 Thread M. Williamson
How about this: Over the past several years, new projects have been approved and created improving our coverage of world languages. However, the vast majority of this growth since the formation of Langcom has been in European languages - a quick sampling reveals new Wikipedias in Rusyn (Eastern Eu

[Foundation-l] FW: [Gendergap] Nine Reasons Women Don't Edit Wikipedia

2011-02-21 Thread Marc Riddell
-- From: Marc Riddell Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:34:48 -0500 To: Sue Gardner Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Nine Reasons Women Don't Edit Wikipedia > On 20 February 2011 14:24, Marc Riddell wrote: > >> Sue, as you know, this is the area of my greatest concern regarding the >> future of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 February 2011 13:14, Teofilo wrote: > For the time being, the less bad licenses for videos are the "Licence > art libre" with "specify to the recipient where to access the > originals (either initial or subsequent)" (1) (but it is not clear if > the word "recipient" applies only to distribu

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 February 2011 13:14, Teofilo wrote: > For the time being, the less bad licenses for videos are the "Licence > art libre" with "specify to the recipient where to access the > originals (either initial or subsequent)" (1) (but it is not clear if > the word "recipient" applies only to distribu

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Teofilo
2011/2/20 geni : (...) > > Well no. Because any such requirement would make it difficult to > distribute such a video via conventional TV. A video has been released by a creator who intends it for free-software-like distribution: do you think it is good to allow reusers to display this video on t

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-21 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, Le dimanche 20 février 2011 à 17:07 +0100, Teofilo a écrit : > > I think the upload wizard should > > - allow non-CC licenses such as License art libre, or GNU GPL, GNU > LGPL, Open Source Music License, etc... > - when CC licenses are chosen, allow to pick up licenses from any > version (2

Re: [Foundation-l] help on usability initiative sandbox wiki

2011-02-21 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Greetings, Le lundi 21 février 2011 à 02:49 -0500, Risker a écrit : > > Unfortunately, the absence of SUL means that global IP blocks also do not > have effect. This IP has been globally blocked for 11 months already. This > would support MZMcBride's proposal that these "specific purpose" wikis