I can promise you that the reason edit rates has gone down is not because of
problems with wikitext. Though the cruft is a symptom.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:50 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> [crossposted to foundation-l and wikitech-l]
>
>
> "There has to be a vision though, of something better. May
This 73 minute podcast features the 4th Annual Robert C. Heterick Jr.
Lecture, given by Henry Jenkins, Director of the Comparative Media
Studies Program at MIT. The lecture is entitled, "What Wikipedia Can
Teach Us About the New Media Literacies".
Emblematic of the new participatory cultures and t
I liked the idea of clearly indicating what the current amount of
funds would go for and what the next major funding milestones are.
(Sorry, whoever it was who posted this initially as an alternative to
things becoming "urgent" - I'd cite your post but I didn't find it
upon looking again!)
The thi
> One fix that developers could do, and which would address 93.6% of the
> problem is to move the template editing out-of-normal-editing-space.
>
> Disentangle the template code, from the editable text.
>
> W
There is a small army of editors constantly working on and, hopefully,
improving template
Perhaps you should work on establishing the Wikimedia brand...
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> 2011/1/1 Stephen Bain :
> > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Erik Moeller
> wrote:
> >>
> >> But to suggest that the choice of such
> >> shorthand is tantamount to "lying to and
2011/1/1 Stephen Bain :
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>>
>> But to suggest that the choice of such
>> shorthand is tantamount to "lying to and misleading our donors" is,
>> indeed, irresponsible hyperbole. It's clear that the choice was, in
>> fact, made to _reduce_ potent
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>
> But to suggest that the choice of such
> shorthand is tantamount to "lying to and misleading our donors" is,
> indeed, irresponsible hyperbole. It's clear that the choice was, in
> fact, made to _reduce_ potential confusion of donors about w
2011/1/1 Thomas Dalton :
> That is the completely wrong attitude. If we cannot reach our target
> with an honest campaign, we should accept that we cannot reach our
> target and make do with less money. We should not lie to and mislead
> our donors.
I fully understand the arguments not to use shor
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>
> But Wikimedia Foundation isn't (and has never been) purely a
> techno-organization, it's a global educational media organization and
> world-wide movement for free knowledge, which critically depends on
> technology to get its work done.
An
One fix that developers could do, and which would address 93.6% of the
problem is to move the template editing out-of-normal-editing-space.
Disentangle the template code, from the editable text.
W
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On 2 January 2011 00:15, David Gerard wrote:
> On 2 January 2011 00:09, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> I agree with the rest of your email, though. The WMF's increased
>> budget is justified. That money is going on worthwhile things. That
>> doesn't, however, mean that we should raise that money by wh
On 2 January 2011 00:09, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> I agree with the rest of your email, though. The WMF's increased
> budget is justified. That money is going on worthwhile things. That
> doesn't, however, mean that we should raise that money by whatever
> means necessary.
We are not within a thou
On 1 January 2011 23:50, Erik Moeller wrote:
> I don't see anything wrong at all with messages that signal increased
> urgency as the fundraiser draws to a close.
I do. When the fundraiser ends is a choice you make, not something
imposed upon you by external forces. Also, people can continue to
d
2011/1/1 Domas Mituzas :
> It is not obvious how much money is "urgent", more urgent than the need to
> read the article.
> It is not obvious how much money is so urgent that it needs to distract
> me from reading the article by blinking.
> It is not obvious how much money is urgent so we cou
On 30 December 2010 08:55, Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
> Any solution that calls for endless templates is a bad one socially as
> well as technically, and at the point where you even consider
> something on that scale you should probably be consulting developers
> for a better way, like a way to do
It wouldn't be all that hard. Elements are either "inline" or "block"
elements. Inline elements insert into the text flow, while text flows around
block elements. If we make the distinction as simple as that, and disallow
all methods of positioning other than that which is natively available in
wik
On 01/01/11 03:34, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> We're delighted to be able to start 2011 with our community giving goal
> already met.
Congratulations!
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On 1 January 2011 10:40, Domas Mituzas wrote:
>> There is no reason that they would have to resort to seeking large donations
>> from
>> extremely wealthy private interests.
> They already do, don't they?
I understand that for the current fundraiser, it was in fact an
explicit goal to seek sm
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 1 January 2011 13:45, Stephen Bain wrote:
>> This puts a ceiling on 'urgent' costs at $8.8 M, or 43% of the budget
>> of $20.4 M. [3]
>
> This is a worthwhile analysis, but you have neglected the numerous
> expenses involved in supporting
On 1 January 2011 13:45, Stephen Bain wrote:
> This puts a ceiling on 'urgent' costs at $8.8 M, or 43% of the budget
> of $20.4 M. [3]
This is a worthwhile analysis, but you have neglected the numerous
expenses involved in supporting a large organisation. You can't have
an organisation with an $8
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Domas Mituzas wrote:
>
>> It's kind of obvious, isn't it?
>
> It is not obvious how much money is "urgent", more urgent than the need to
> read the article.
> It is not obvious how much money is so urgent that it needs to distract
> me from reading the article
I just want to send here, along with best new year wishes, an enormous
thanks to the Haifa team. I believe they have beaten all previous
Wikimanias in opening the registration website so early.
Hat down.
Cheers,
Delphine
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
> Hello, everyone.
>
>
Hi!
> I need not imply that the WMF depends on money.
Or rather, "certain parts of WMF depends on certain amounts of money".
> It's kind of obvious, isn't it?
It is not obvious how much money is "urgent", more urgent than the need to read
the article.
It is not obvious how much money is s
To bad this fundraiser used lies, and other things the community didn't want...
Sue exicutive director wikipedia as example
2011/1/1, Keegan Peterzell :
> +1 with a :) and a cherry on top.
>
> On 12/31/2010 8:34 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We wanted you to hear first: in
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