Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-12-11 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 04:37:40PM -0500, David Goodman wrote: > In my experience, it is simply not correct that people who may be paid > to edit, even for a nonprofit organization, are unlikely to have a > bias. (Of course, so do the unpaid. COI does not require money , but > money always produce

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010-12-11 Thread Kim Bruning
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 03:14:17PM -0700, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > > I can safely say that for fundraising we use a series of etherpads > that absolutely couldn't be done on a wiki. We'd be edit conflicting > all over the place. :) > Would you still say that if we (re)integrated Google^W

Re: [Foundation-l] Should we offer to host citizendium?

2010-12-11 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 08:17:06PM -0800, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:05 AM, David Gerard wrote: > > On 12 November 2010 17:34, Anthony wrote: > > > >> These are all questions which would have to be answered before WMF > >> should even consider getting involved. ?To cover its

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-12-11 Thread David Goodman
In my experience, it is simply not correct that people who may be paid to edit, even for a nonprofit organization, are unlikely to have a bias. (Of course, so do the unpaid. COI does not require money , but money always produces COI.) I've seen too many cases of such people adding inappropriate

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-12-11 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:25:12AM +, FT2 wrote: > I drafted this. It still seems the best approach in terms of keeping good > editing and reducing problematic editing: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FT2/Commercial_and_paid_editing Hmm, your current rules fail the Duck test.(I also apply

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia

2010-12-11 Thread dex2000
could you please explain, how you reach such a conclusion and why you mix renaming of the foundation up with merging of projects. It is quite out of line with my thinking and my proposal here. Regards, Sir48/Thyge - Original meddelelse - > Fra: Federico Leva (Nemo) > Til: Wikimedia Foun

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-11 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Sat, 11/12/10, wrote: > People don't read they react. In the UK a couple of years > ago there was > a petition that gathered 50,000 signatures against a > proposal to ban all > photography in public spaces. As a point of fact there was > no such > proposal. > > This received over

Re: [Foundation-l] Paypal removal?

2010-12-11 Thread FT2
Removing paypal etc would be equivalent to a statement "WMF supports wikileaks". Unless we would make that statement formally as well, this discussion goes nowhere. Much as I personally support them, this isn't WMF's business and can only harm the project to make a formal stand. Individual users m

Re: [Foundation-l] Paypal removal?

2010-12-11 Thread aude
On Dec 11, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Robert Tice wrote: > I suggest that use of Paypal is contraindicated due to their > deliberate > efforts to inhibit the spread of information by closing their > account with > Wikileaks. It is inappropriate for Wiki to be associated with > Paypal or > Amazon.c

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia

2010-12-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/12/11 Federico Leva (Nemo) : >> Say the projects were all renamed.  Great.  What's changed?  Only the name >> on each page and likely the logo in the upper left.  Will the smaller >> projects magically get more readers and editors and Google page rank?  No. > > In fact the proposers of renamin

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia

2010-12-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Aaron Adrignola, 11/12/2010 05:01: > The following is an important point by Fajro: > >> Google has links to their other sites in the top of every poge: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fajro/5249799850/in/set-72157625445178785/ >> Wikipedia "sister proyects" are also relegated to the bottom of the

Re: [Foundation-l] excluding Wikipedia clones from searching

2010-12-11 Thread ????
On 10/12/2010 23:51, John Doe wrote: > I'm In the process of creating a cleanup tool that checks archive.org and > webcitation.org if a URL is not archived it checks to see if it is live and > if it is I request that webcitation archive it on demand, and fills in the > archiveurl parameter of cite

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content

2010-12-11 Thread ????
On 10/12/2010 20:37, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/10/2010 12:08:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, > jayen...@yahoo.com writes: > > >> Suggest you read the draft policy, rather than the votes. >> > > You're suggesting that all the no votes are simply trolls then? > That's a lot of no v