On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:40 AM, geni wrote:
> On 26 October 2010 16:40, Veronique Kessler wrote:
>> I am pleased to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation's audited
>> financial statements for the years ended June 30, 2010 and 2009 are
>> available on the Foundation wiki at:
>>
>> http://upload.
Sorry, not this time. What I've got off hand isn't in a publicly usable
format. I didn't think it would be of interest to the public. Now I know
and next time I will make sure the info is public friendly, should it be
desired.
-Jon
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 19:17, K. Peachey wrote:
> On Wed, O
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Jon Davis wrote:
> Howdy,
> As a quick introduction, I'm Jon Davis[1], one of the Office IT guys in the
> SF office. Since the Google Apps migrations is one of my major projects,
> I'll try to answer your questions the best I can. Replies in line.
> ...snip...
So
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Zugravu Gheorghe
wrote:
>
>
> On 27.10.2010 01:15, Jon Davis wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 15:02, Federico Leva (Nemo)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Erik Moeller, 26/10/2010 23:01:
We've recommended Thunderbird in the past (with some folks sticking
with GMail, y
On 27.10.2010 01:39, David Gerard wrote:
> On 26 October 2010 23:35, Zugravu Gheorghe wrote:
>
>> And as a small comment: Thunderbird is free (as in freedom) application
>> and allows to do whatever manipulation with the code (and there are a
>> bunch of thunderbird customization already availa
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:40 AM, geni wrote:
>..
> "Wikipedia contains more than 16 million articles contributed by a
> global volunteer community of more than 100,000 people." You are
> using some non standard definitions of community here.
I'd like to see how that figure of 100,000 was arrived
On 26 October 2010 16:40, Veronique Kessler wrote:
> I am pleased to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation's audited
> financial statements for the years ended June 30, 2010 and 2009 are
> available on the Foundation wiki at:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/c/cc/FINAL_09_10Fr
On 26 October 2010 23:35, Zugravu Gheorghe wrote:
> And as a small comment: Thunderbird is free (as in freedom) application
> and allows to do whatever manipulation with the code (and there are a
> bunch of thunderbird customization already available there) - thus if
> there is a need this need c
On 27.10.2010 01:15, Jon Davis wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 15:02, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
>
>> Erik Moeller, 26/10/2010 23:01:
>>> We've recommended Thunderbird in the past (with some folks sticking
>>> with GMail, yours truly included), but unfortunately it doesn't meet
>>> all our nee
On 10/26/10 11:01 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
I'd love to see at least a
> basic MediaWiki/Etherpad integration, it would give MW a huge
> productivity boost for real-time note-taking and collaboration.
+ 1 !
Anthere
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 15:02, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> Erik Moeller, 26/10/2010 23:01:
> > We've recommended Thunderbird in the past (with some folks sticking
> > with GMail, yours truly included), but unfortunately it doesn't meet
> > all our needs.
>
> Why?
>
>
All things considered, I lik
Jon Davis wrote (among other things):
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:22, MZMcBride wrote:
>> I had a few questions about this migration.
>>
>> Has the decision to use Google Apps been finalized? If so, who made the
>> final decision?
>>
> Yes, the decision has been made. Office IT did the origina
On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> Actually, I've watched some etherpad history "replays" and I've seen
> simple patterns of a number of edits by an user and then a number of
> edits by another user (even on another section): nothing you can't
> easily do on MediaWiki.
I
Erik Moeller, 26/10/2010 23:01:
> We've recommended Thunderbird in the past (with some folks sticking
> with GMail, yours truly included), but unfortunately it doesn't meet
> all our needs.
Why?
> Google Docs is a great collaborative drafting tool (as is Etherpad,
> which is open), but I don't w
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jon Davis wrote:
> The MX records point to McHenry (WMF). At this point mail is sorted and
> sent to the correct locations (Be it OTRS, Mailing Lists or Google Apps).
>
> -Jon
Ah, that's not so bad, then. Anything that has to be really really
confidential (shoul
The MX records point to McHenry (WMF). At this point mail is sorted and
sent to the correct locations (Be it OTRS, Mailing Lists or Google Apps).
-Jon
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 14:31, Anthony wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Jon Davis wrote:
> > This migration will not effect anything
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Jon Davis wrote:
> This migration will not effect anything but Staff email. OTRS, wiki's,
> mailing lists and anything else I've forgotten to mention will continue to
> work as they did previously.
Are the MX records going to point to WMF, or to Google? For whic
This migration will not effect anything but Staff email. OTRS, wiki's,
mailing lists and anything else I've forgotten to mention will continue to
work as they did previously.
As for paying, Yes we are. As for the SLA, the standard [1]
-Jon
[1] http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/terms/sla.html
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Jon Davis wrote:
> When we wanted to pursue
> the Google Apps project further, we contacted a sales rep. In the end, we
> went through the process like any other group would, and we pay the standard
> price.
Wow. The standard price? Is the person who negotiated
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> 2010/10/26 David Gerard :
>> ..
>> Google Docs is ridiculously usable for real-time collaboration. More
>> so than anything I've ever used.
>>
>> I suggest it's quite plausible that the Google versions are so far
>> ahead of self-hosted open s
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> Gmail is just ridiculously better than any other email client I've
> ever used ever, having previously progressed through Pine, elm, mutt
> and Thunderbird. Perhaps it's just me, but I'd guess otherwise from
> the number of Wikimedians with gm
Howdy,
As a quick introduction, I'm Jon Davis[1], one of the Office IT guys in the
SF office. Since the Google Apps migrations is one of my major projects,
I'll try to answer your questions the best I can. Replies in line.
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:22, MZMcBride wrote:
> Hi.
>
> This morning
2010/10/26 David Gerard :
> Gmail is just ridiculously better than any other email client I've
> ever used ever, having previously progressed through Pine, elm, mutt
> and Thunderbird. Perhaps it's just me, but I'd guess otherwise from
> the number of Wikimedians with gmail,com addresses.
> free
>
On 26 October 2010 20:49, George Herbert wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:38 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>> There's a place for applied engineer hubris[1]. With due caution.
>> [1] http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/engineers%20and%20woo
> (grump)
> While generally true, there's a lack of regard there
On 26 October 2010 21:30, MZMcBride wrote:
> Perhaps Google Apps has some terrific benefits that Wikimedia sorely needs;
> that was the reason I asked what benefits Wikimedia saw in migrating their
> systems in my original post. However, from where I'm standing, the cost
> versus benefits simply
Nathan wrote:
> I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't possibly care less what
> office software the Foundation uses. I suppose the paranoid conspiracy
> theory of a Google takeover fueled by illicit access to WMF data
> doesn't strike me as remotely realistic.
There was a story about a mo
In a message dated 10/26/2010 1:14:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
slimvir...@gmail.com writes:
> This is the kind of test of our accuracy we really don't want. :)
>
There you go using that "A" word again.
W
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 13:38, David Gerard wrote:
> On 26 October 2010 20:30, Michael Snow wrote:
>> David Gerard wrote:
>
>>> I *facepalm*ed. ENGINEER HUBRIS IS NOT WHAT WIKIPEDIA IS FOR!
>
>> No, but it's what much of Wikipedia was written with.
>
This is the kind of test of our accuracy we re
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:38 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> There's a place for applied engineer hubris[1]. With due caution.
>
> - d.
>
> [1] http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/engineers%20and%20woo
(grump)
While generally true, there's a lack of regard there for
engineering-oriented polymaths.
--
-ge
On 26 October 2010 20:30, Michael Snow wrote:
> David Gerard wrote:
>> I *facepalm*ed. ENGINEER HUBRIS IS NOT WHAT WIKIPEDIA IS FOR!
> No, but it's what much of Wikipedia was written with.
+1
Actually, it was the computer stuff that was the first area of
Wikipedia that I found actually useful
David Gerard wrote:
> Forget medical information. How about making a plane that won't fall
> out of thesky?
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/26/kenya-plane-homemade
>
> I *facepalm*ed. ENGINEER HUBRIS IS NOT WHAT WIKIPEDIA IS FOR!
>
No, but it's what much of Wikipedia was written wit
Forget medical information. How about making a plane that won't fall
out of thesky?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/26/kenya-plane-homemade
I *facepalm*ed. ENGINEER HUBRIS IS NOT WHAT WIKIPEDIA IS FOR!
- d.
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I am pleased to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation's audited
financial statements for the years ended June 30, 2010 and 2009 are
available on the Foundation wiki at:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/c/cc/FINAL_09_10From_KPMG.pdf
In anticipation of any questions, we have al
On 26 October 2010 11:00, David Gerard wrote:
> On 26 October 2010 14:23, Nathan wrote:
>
> > I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't possibly care less what
> > office software the Foundation uses. I suppose the paranoid conspiracy
> > theory of a Google takeover fueled by illicit access
On 26 October 2010 14:23, Nathan wrote:
> I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't possibly care less what
> office software the Foundation uses. I suppose the paranoid conspiracy
> theory of a Google takeover fueled by illicit access to WMF data
> doesn't strike me as remotely realistic.
On 26 October 2010 13:23, Nathan wrote:
> I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't possibly care less what
> office software the Foundation uses. I suppose the paranoid conspiracy
> theory of a Google takeover fueled by illicit access to WMF data
> doesn't strike me as remotely realistic.
>
I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't possibly care less what
office software the Foundation uses. I suppose the paranoid conspiracy
theory of a Google takeover fueled by illicit access to WMF data
doesn't strike me as remotely realistic.
Nathan
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