Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010-10-25 Thread MZMcBride
Anthony wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, MZMcBride wrote: >> This morning the Wikimedia Foundation had a meeting about migrating to >> Google Apps. > > Using Google Apps for what? My understanding is that it would be used for e-mail, calendars, and Google Docs primarily. When I asked "W

[Foundation-l] Sock Puppets

2010-10-25 Thread Ben McGinnes
Hello, Due to a recent server rebuild and resurrection of this email address, I've been rediscovering mailing lists that I had completely forgotten I was subscribed to. This is one. Imagine my amusement at receiving an email from someone called Houston Navarro appearing to leap to the def

[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 6 Issue 4 3 – 25 October 2010

2010-10-25 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Mike Godwin leaves the Foundation, ArbCom election announced http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-10-25/News_and_notes In the news: Good faith vs. bad faith, climate change, court citations, weirdest medieval fact, brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010-10-25 Thread Robert S. Horning
On 10/25/2010 06:22 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Has the decision to use Google Apps been finalized? If so, who made the > final decision? > > What are the benefits of using Google Apps for the Wikimedia Foundation? > One thing I will say to the benefit of Google Apps is that they allow long-distan

[Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: October 25

2010-10-25 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, This is another update on Pending Changes work. Over the Hack-a-ton weekend, Chad Horohoe and Priyanka Dhanda worked on two of the bigger features for the November 16 Pending Changes update: Bug 25294 - "Reject" button confirmation screen in Pending Changes https://bugzilla.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010-10-25 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Hi. > > This morning the Wikimedia Foundation had a meeting about migrating to > Google Apps. Where was this announced / discussed ? Or, how the heck did you find out?? ;-) -- John Vandenberg ___ fo

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010-10-25 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Hi. > > This morning the Wikimedia Foundation had a meeting about migrating to > Google Apps. Using Google Apps for what? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: ht

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?

2010-10-25 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. This morning the Wikimedia Foundation had a meeting about migrating to Google Apps. Google Apps is a Web-based closed source office suite that includes Gmail and a few other services.[1] I had a few questions about this migration. Has the decision to use Google Apps been finalized? If so, wh

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing, was Re: Ban and moderate

2010-10-25 Thread Robert S. Horning
On 10/25/2010 02:05 PM, George Herbert wrote: > > General agree. I do back of the envelope spacecraft mission planning > with Wikipedia sources when on the road and away from my professional > tools, and back of the envelope structural design with Wikipedia > materials properties when similarly aw

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 10/25/2010 2:12:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk writes: > Superb. I was wondering when someone would actually say this. It is the > point I made right at the beginning of all of this. That the drug pages > should not be reflecting some controversy. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-25 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:54 PM, SlimVirgin wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 14:19, George Herbert > wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM, SlimVirgin wrote: >>> We would not allow the people who make Coca Cola to be our sole >>> sources on whether it's safe, or on whether we all ought to b

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-25 Thread ????
On 25/10/2010 21:54, SlimVirgin wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 14:19, George Herbert > wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM, SlimVirgin wrote: >>> We would not allow the people who make Coca Cola to be our sole >>> sources on whether it's safe, or on whether we all ought to be >>> drinkin

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-25 Thread ????
On 25/10/2010 21:19, George Herbert wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM, SlimVirgin wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 16:26, Fred Bauder wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 15:59, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > And where there is a body of scholarly research, the peer-reviewed > scholarly l

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-25 Thread SlimVirgin
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 14:19, George Herbert wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM, SlimVirgin wrote: >> We would not allow the people who make Coca Cola to be our sole >> sources on whether it's safe, or on whether we all ought to be >> drinking it. But when it comes to drugs and scientists,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Survey about recent ban

2010-10-25 Thread Kwan Ting Chan
On 25/10/2010 18:32, Austin Hair wrote: Just for your information, Houston Navarro has been moderated for being Greg Kohs. Pro tip: bcc'ing a bunch of list subscribers with a fake "[Foundation-l]" subject isn't very sneaky, particularly when the return-path header says "thekoh...@gmail.com." T

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-25 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM, SlimVirgin wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 16:26, Fred Bauder wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 15:59, Andreas Kolbe wrote: And where there is a body of scholarly research, the peer-reviewed scholarly literature is the most authoritative literature ar

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing, was Re: Ban and moderate

2010-10-25 Thread George Herbert
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Robert S. Horning wrote: > On 10/23/2010 03:42 PM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: >> >> If at any moment it can be stood on its head then the information >> contained in the articles can never be authoritative. Suppose I have a >> calculator that every once in

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Survey about recent ban

2010-10-25 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > It does not work for me. The poll that is.. The ban of Mr Kohs works for me. > Thanks, >     GerardM Pressing "Enter" doesn't work as you'd expect on that site (it seems to activate the "Sign In" button, rather than "Continue"). __

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Survey about recent ban

2010-10-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It does not work for me. The poll that is.. The ban of Mr Kohs works for me. Thanks, GerardM On 25 October 2010 19:32, Austin Hair wrote: > Just for your information, Houston Navarro has been moderated for > being Greg Kohs. > > Pro tip: bcc'ing a bunch of list subscribers with a fake

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Survey about recent ban

2010-10-25 Thread Austin Hair
Just for your information, Houston Navarro has been moderated for being Greg Kohs. Pro tip: bcc'ing a bunch of list subscribers with a fake "[Foundation-l]" subject isn't very sneaky, particularly when the return-path header says "thekoh...@gmail.com." Greg, the sooner you grow up, the happier th

[Foundation-l] Suggest great images for WMF design work!

2010-10-25 Thread Jay Walsh
Hi everyone, We're working on a number of major design projects here at WMF over the next few months, and as part of that work I'd like to reach out to everyone to take part in suggesting photographs and images from the Commons for inclusion. This request is specifically focussed on suggesting

Re: [Foundation-l] New Wikipedia-like pharmacy website

2010-10-25 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > > http://www.nursinginpractice.com/default.asp?title=NewWikipedia-likepharmacywebsite&page=article.display&article.id=23508 > > Pharmapedia > > http://www.phip.org/index.php?title=Main_Page > > There's just getting start, but looks promising.

[Foundation-l] New Wikipedia-like pharmacy website

2010-10-25 Thread Fred Bauder
http://www.nursinginpractice.com/default.asp?title=NewWikipedia-likepharmacywebsite&page=article.display&article.id=23508 Pharmapedia http://www.phip.org/index.php?title=Main_Page There's just getting start, but looks promising. They are not copying Wikipedia articles. Fred __

[Foundation-l] HealthNewsReview.org

2010-10-25 Thread Fred Bauder
HealthNewsReview.org reviews media coverage of health articles in newspapers: "What is HealthNewsReview.org? HealthNewsReview.org is a website dedicated to: * Improving the accuracy of news stories about medical treatments, tests, products and procedures. * Helping consumers evaluate the

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and ...

2010-10-25 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 10/24/2010 10:58:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dgoodma...@gmail.com writes: > This is not a mechanical > process. It is editing in the true sense of the word: it takes > judgement, it takes takes research-- things we have been claiming are > against our basic principles. >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Five-year WMF targets exclude non-Wikipedia projects

2010-10-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
> > The vast majority of our users > > are using Wikipedia and not the other projects, which means even a > > small improvement to Wikipedia is likely to have more impact than even > > a large improvement to one of the other projects. > > That's an unproven assumption. It might even be the opposite

Re: [Foundation-l] The pathology informatics curriculum wiki: Harnessing the power of user-generated content

2010-10-25 Thread Gustavo Carrancio
As a contributor, mainly in the molecular pathology field in the spanish wikipedia, I see that our main problems are: lacking of images, lacking of reliable parameters and the great degree of scattering of data in the literature, oftenly contradictory. Recently I talk about this with a pupil. Th

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-25 Thread SlimVirgin
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 03:05, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > I'm sure you noticed that this 2008 study > > http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0050095 > > criticises media reports for citing studies and experts with financial ties > to manufacturers, w

Re: [Foundation-l] The pathology informatics curriculum wiki: Harnessing the power of user-generated content

2010-10-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Nice. Worth noting though that the articles were informatics articles, rather than medical articles. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929539/table/T0004/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929539/table/T0003/ A. > From: Fred Bauder > Here is a medical use of Wikipedia, >

[Foundation-l] The pathology informatics curriculum wiki: Harnessing the power of user-generated content

2010-10-25 Thread Fred Bauder
Here is a medical use of Wikipedia, from Journal of Pathology Informatics: The pathology informatics curriculum wiki: Harnessing the power of user-generated content http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2929539/?tool=pubmed This journal article in free online. I really like it. They don't

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...

2010-10-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
> > Can you address the issue of > vested interests? If a drug > > company has > > financed all or most of the peer-reviewed work, your > > argument is that > > we should nevertheless reply on those studies > exclusively, > > and not > > allow high-quality mainstream media who may be > pointing to

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and ...

2010-10-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
> From: David Goodman > Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 6:57 > Whether or not we want it to be, > whether or not it ought to be, > Wikipedia is being relied on. Our foundational principles > do not > control the outside world. What we have produced is > being used as the > nearest approach to a