Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-08-02 Thread James Alexander
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > This has been an interesting thread to follow, there should be one > non-Wikimania, because it does matter. I've met several Wikimedians at the > couple meet-ups I've been to with whom on-wiki I had many disagreements > with. Meeting face

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Huib Laurens
Cary, I don't know what to say, I will miss you :( -- Huib "Abigor" Laurens Tech team www.wikiweet.nl - www.llamadawiki.nl - www.forgotten-beauty.com - www.wickedway.nl - www.huiblaurens.nl - www.wikiweet.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Belayet Hossain
I am very shocked. :( I'll definitely miss you my friend. Belayet [[User:Bellayet]] -- Belayet Hossain http://www.facebook.com/bellayet http://twitter.com/bellayet http://bellayet.wordpress.com (Bangla) Knowledge is universal ...so share it. Hillel If I am not for myself, who w

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-08-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
This has been an interesting thread to follow, there should be one non-Wikimania, because it does matter. I've met several Wikimedians at the couple meet-ups I've been to with whom on-wiki I had many disagreements with. Meeting face to face clears that air with the human contact. James Forrester

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-08-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
Florence Devouard wrote: > On 7/31/10 5:21 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >> But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any >> proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal >> meetings between Wikimedians are not just fun for them, but actually >> beneficial t

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-08-02 Thread stevertigo
Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Interestingly, I have had a completely opposite experiences. When reading a > Google translation, it is easy for me to decipher what does it mean even if > it is not gramatically correct. When translating, I often hang on deciding > what sentence structure to use, or on

Re: [Foundation-l] Free translation memory

2010-08-02 Thread stevertigo
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jimmy O'Regan wrote: > Open-Tran: http://open-tran.eu/ > Is something like translatewiki. > Software here: http://code.google.com/p/open-tran/ > They also provide their databases for download. > For running your own server: > TinyTM: http://tinytm.sourceforge.net/

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Ray Saintonge
Cary Bass wrote: > I'm leaving the staff, but I will continue to be involved with the > Wikimedia movement as a volunteer, both as a contributor and in the > organization of the annual Wikimania conference. Much of my work with > Wikimedia will continue, except now I will be doing it as a volun

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread MZMcBride
Brandon Harris wrote: > This reads to me like you're trying to start a fight with the Usability > team, and I don't rightly cotton to that idea. The team is comprised of > many people, all with different opinions to be sure - but they are all > *dedicated to the mission.* I wasn't aware "cotton"

[Foundation-l] Call for Volunteers: Wikimedia Research Committee

2010-08-02 Thread Erik Moeller
Hello all, The Wikimedia Foundation is looking for volunteers who would like to support the management of relationships between Wikimedia communities and the broader communities of researchers who study Wikimedia projects. We hope to create a committee with volunteers from both groups with a rich

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Oliver Keyes
" in an attempt to impose purely aesthetic choices on the broader community." Impose? You know it can be turned off, right? On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Brandon Harris wrote: > > > On 8/2/2010 6:12 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > A lot of the complaints I heard regarding the Vector rollout were based

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Brandon Harris
On 8/2/2010 6:12 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > A lot of the complaints I heard regarding the Vector rollout were based in > the fact that the Wikimedia Usability team has subverted and bastardized the > term "usability" in an attempt to impose purely aesthetic choices on the > broader community.

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread MZMcBride
Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Apparently long-time Wikimedia contributors are also far more sensitive > to Foundation imposition of /less/ visual clutter as well, judging by > the reaction to the Vector rollout. Perhaps we could just say that > long-term Wikimedia contributors are just more sensitive ;) A

Re: [Foundation-l] Community Hiring banner

2010-08-02 Thread MZMcBride
Philippe Beaudette wrote: > With all that said, the comments about the "opportunity cost" of > running those banners on the world's fifth most-viewed web properties > is an important one. It's one that we explored and will continue to > explore. You may have noticed that we actually tried out two

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Voice of All
This shocked me :/ Will you be in the office the week of Aug 30th when I visit? Cary Bass-4 wrote: > > It is with deep regret that I tell you I will be leaving the staff of > the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of December. > > I'm leaving the staff, but I will continue to be involved with t

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 2 August 2010 23:51, Nathan wrote: > Cary, you'll be missed. The WMF absolutely should try to replace you, > although I doubt they'll find someone who can do the job as well as > you have done. Just to clarify, my understanding is that the plan is to replace Cary with multiple people, which ha

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Patricio Lorente
Cary, it is very nice to read you are returning to your studies, but we will miss you. Really. Good luck and hope to see you soon. Un abrazo! Patricio -- Patricio Lorente Mensajería Instantánea: patricio_lore...@jabber.org Blog: http://www.patriciolorente

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Nathan
Cary, you'll be missed. The WMF absolutely should try to replace you, although I doubt they'll find someone who can do the job as well as you have done. Good luck going back to school, and maybe you can get into editing some of the articles about Levant religions on the English Wikipedia... I hear

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Cary, Hopefully, your successor will be even a fraction of you, in every way. Dan Rosenthal On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Kwan Ting Chan wrote: > Thank you for all you have done, and the very best of wish for all your > future endeavours. > > KTC > > -- > Experience is a good school but the

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Kwan Ting Chan
Thank you for all you have done, and the very best of wish for all your future endeavours. KTC -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: htt

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On 08/03/2010 02:01 AM, Cary Bass wrote: > It is with deep regret that I tell you I will be leaving the staff of > the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of December. Cary, You just managed to write the first mailing list post that ever managed to shock me deeply. I do not think I'm able to express

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I've enjoyed working with you on a few projects and learning about the Foundation from you, and the couple chances I've had to see you in person have always been fun. Thanks, Cary. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l ma

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Cary Bass wrote: > It is with deep regret that I tell you I will be leaving the staff of > the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of December. > > I'm leaving the staff, but I will continue to be involved with the > Wikimedia movement as a volunteer, both as a contribu

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Jon Davis
It won't. We're doomed. Cary was the glue that held everything together! /me sobs On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 15:05, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 2 August 2010 23:01, Cary Bass wrote: > > It is with deep regret that I tell you I will be leaving the staff of > > the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 2 August 2010 23:01, Cary Bass wrote: > It is with deep regret that I tell you I will be leaving the staff of > the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of December. I'm very sorry to hear this! I'm not sure how the Foundation is going to survive without you... thank you enormously for everything y

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Sebastian Moleski
Hi Cary, Thank you for everything you've done for the Foundation, the projects, but also the chapters. I will definitely miss you. Best wishes for your new degree. Sebastian On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Cary Bass wrote: > It is with deep regret that I tell you I will be leaving the staff o

[Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

2010-08-02 Thread Cary Bass
It is with deep regret that I tell you I will be leaving the staff of the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of December. I'm leaving the staff, but I will continue to be involved with the Wikimedia movement as a volunteer, both as a contributor and in the organization of the annual Wikimania conf

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Apparently long-time Wikimedia contributors are also far more sensitive > to Foundation imposition of /less/ visual clutter as well, judging by > the reaction to the Vector rollout. Perhaps we could just say that > long-term Wikimedia contribut

[Foundation-l] Community Hiring banner

2010-08-02 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi all, Just wanted to report back on the "Work at Wikimedia" banners that ran on the site the last few days. The idea behind them was to uncover talent for the community department that doesn't necessarily haunt the "usual" places. We specifically wanted to reach out to people who used th

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Robert Rohde
Er, I mean: "I think it would feel less imposing and more friendly to have a smaller banner THAT ran longer." Silly typo. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/list

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Robert Rohde
While I appreciate the comments about people being overly sensitive, I do think it is still true that we should avoid unnecessary clutter. With that in mind, I would like to mention that I don't really like the big empty box approach. On my screen it looks like the banner is about 3.5 times the h

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Apparently long-time Wikimedia contributors are also far more sensitive to Foundation imposition of /less/ visual clutter as well, judging by the reaction to the Vector rollout. Perhaps we could just say that long-term Wikimedia contributors are just more sensitive ;) Ryan Kaldari On 8/2/10 5:

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: Global Arbitration Committee

2010-08-02 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> We are not discussing how to choose members of DRC [1]. >> >> [1] - >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Dispute_resolution_committee#Further_discussion > > 'no

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: Global Arbitration Committee

2010-08-02 Thread John Vandenberg
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > We are not discussing how to choose members of DRC [1]. > > [1] - > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Dispute_resolution_committee#Further_discussion 'not' = 'now' ? -- John Vandenberg ___

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: Global Arbitration Committee

2010-08-02 Thread Milos Rancic
We are not discussing how to choose members of DRC [1]. [1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Dispute_resolution_committee#Further_discussion ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://l

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:43 PM, geni wrote: > >> Job adverts? Really?. Site notice is for critical stuff (fund raising, >> servers about to explode) even if you play with the notice to only >> appear ~%10 of the time. > > Personally I was quit

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-08-02 Thread Finne Boonen
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 09:58, Florence Devouard wrote: > On 7/31/10 5:21 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> I am thinking about making Wikimania 2011 as awesome as possible and >> here's a little something that bothered me. >> >> Wikimania 2010 was my first. It was a lot of fun to meet Wikimedians >> f

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:43 PM, geni wrote: > Job adverts? Really?. Site notice is for critical stuff (fund raising, > servers about to explode) even if you play with the notice to only > appear ~%10 of the time. Personally I was quite pleased to see it. It can only add to the number of appli

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-08-02 Thread Florence Devouard
On 7/31/10 5:21 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > I am thinking about making Wikimania 2011 as awesome as possible and > here's a little something that bothered me. > > Wikimania 2010 was my first. It was a lot of fun to meet Wikimedians > from around the world. I also think that a lot of new ideas were