Re: [Foundation-l] Free translation memory

2010-07-31 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:29:41 +0300, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2010/7/29 Amir E. Aharoni : >> Is there a Free competitor to the Google Translator Toolkit in terms of >> online storage and sharing? I heard about OmegaT, but if i understand >> correctly, it is a local application that doesn't offer on

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Google translation is good for Wikipedias?

2010-07-31 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:10:54 +0300, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2010/7/25 Shiju Alex : >> Hello All, >> >> Recently there are lot of discussions (in this list also) regarding the >> translation project by Google for some of the big language wikipedias. >> The foundation also seems like approved the e

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Google translation is good for Wikipedias?

2010-07-31 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:04:42 -0300, Fajro wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Mark Williamson > wrote: > >> about the toolkit, but I got the impression you're referring to Google >> Translate, which I agree is always unsuitable to produce usable >> articles. >> >> > Machine translation is

Re: [Foundation-l] Free translation memory

2010-07-31 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:49:21 +0300, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2010/7/29 Milos Rancic : >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Amir E. Aharoni >> wrote: >>> 2010/7/29 Amir E. Aharoni : Is there a Free competitor to the Google Translator Toolkit in terms of online storage and sharing? I hear

Re: [Foundation-l] Free translation memory

2010-07-31 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:22:00 +0200, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Thursday 29 July 2010 10:38:20 Samuel Klein написа: >> There is definitely a "free TM" project waiting to happen. It would be >> nice to see translatewiki [for instance] incorporate such a tool, but >> it may be a nontrivial amount

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2010/7/31 Thomas Dalton : > On 31 July 2010 16:27, David Gerard wrote: >> On 31 July 2010 16:21, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> >>> But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any >>> proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal >>> meetings between Wikimedians ar

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2010 18:15, Austin Hair wrote: > To answer the original post, many projects have resulted from random > talks at dinners during Wikimania, five-minute chats between sessions, > and people just getting to know each other.  I wish I could take the > time to make a more complete list—I th

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Austin Hair
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 31 July 2010 16:27, David Gerard wrote: >> On 31 July 2010 16:21, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> >>> But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any >>> proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal >>> me

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/31 Casey Brown : > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any >> proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal >> meetings between Wikimedians are not just fun for them, but actually >> b

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/31 David Gerard : > On 31 July 2010 16:32, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >> OK, but how exactly? Why did people have to fly to another continent >> to start a chapter in their own country? Did they use Wikimania as an >> opportunity to talk to the people who started the pioneering chapters >> (G

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 31 July 2010 16:37, Casey Brown wrote: > There was also a fundraising summit hosted by Wikimedia UK > , which Thomas > could tell us more about. Indeed. For people involved in chapters, there are lots of in-person meetings and they are very

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Casey Brown
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any > proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal > meetings between Wikimedians are not just fun for them, but actually > beneficial to the Wikimedia commu

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 31 July 2010 16:35, David Gerard wrote: > You said "personal meetings between Wikimedians", not specifically > Wikimania. Do you mean only Wikimania, or do you mean personal > meetings in general? Ah, you were answering the first of the two questions in the text you quoted. I withdraw my quest

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2010 16:32, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > OK, but how exactly? Why did people have to fly to another continent > to start a chapter in their own country? Did they use Wikimania as an > opportunity to talk to the people who started the pioneering chapters > (Germany, France, Italy) and learn

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 31 July 2010 16:27, David Gerard wrote: > On 31 July 2010 16:21, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >> But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any >> proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal >> meetings between Wikimedians are not just fun for them, but actu

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/31 David Gerard : > On 31 July 2010 16:21, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >> But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any >> proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal >> meetings between Wikimedians are not just fun for them, but actually >> beneficial

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2010 16:21, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any > proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal > meetings between Wikimedians are not just fun for them, but actually > beneficial to the Wikimedia community, the

[Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

2010-07-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I am thinking about making Wikimania 2011 as awesome as possible and here's a little something that bothered me. Wikimania 2010 was my first. It was a lot of fun to meet Wikimedians from around the world. I also think that a lot of new ideas were born thanks to the personal meetings in Gdansk, at

Re: [Foundation-l] Free translation memory

2010-07-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/31 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2010 10:17: >> Is there a Free competitor to the Google Translator Toolkit in terms >> of online storage and sharing? > > I've added an entry to > http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_that_need_to_be_free > table, you could writ

[Foundation-l] [Language committee] Call for applications and advices

2010-07-31 Thread Milos Rancic
For those who don't want to read the whole email, we need: * A person who is well introduced in Wikinews. * A person who is well introduced in Wikiversity. * A person who knows to program in Python and willing to spend 2 hours/week in archiving our mailing list on Meta [1]. * Your advices in defin

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-31 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Friday 30 July 2010 02:31:44 Andreas Kolbe написа: > Having tried it tonight, I don't find the Google translator toolkit all > that useful, at least not at this present level of development. To sum up: > > First you read their translation. > > Then you scratch your head: What the deuce is that

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion Questions for Potentially-Objectionable Content

2010-07-31 Thread Alec Conroy
Hi all. Thanks so much for all the encouragement my last email received. Replying to Ting's: Point 1-- NOTCENSORED isn't what you think it is: So, the first thing to realize is that our NOTCENSORED policies are far more narrow than you seem to suspect: • In the case of traditional fish

Re: [Foundation-l] A prerequisite for the neutral, notable sum of all human knowledge

2010-07-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Ray Saintonge, 30/07/2010 12:14: > Brian J Mingus wrote: >> The WMF mission is to provide free knowledge to the world. Wikipedia, in >> particular, hopes to summarize all notable topics into a neutral sum. >> >> Accomplishing this goal means Wikipedia an the WMF will have to evolve. >> Consider the

Re: [Foundation-l] Free translation memory

2010-07-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2010 10:17: > Is there a Free competitor to the Google Translator Toolkit in terms > of online storage and sharing? I've added an entry to http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_that_need_to_be_free table, you could write a paragraph to elaborate a bit. Nemo