[Foundation-l] RfC: Global Arbitration Committee

2010-07-18 Thread Milos Rancic
Stewards had meeting during the Wikimania. One of the conclusions is that we need Global arbitration committee as there are more and more cases which just stewards are able to solve somehow. And we are not elected to make decisions. Please, add your ideas [1] and join the discussion [2]. Below is

[Foundation-l] Conferences, Wikimedia, TED

2010-07-18 Thread Milos Rancic
As the most of you know, TED has affiliate program called TEDx. I am organizing TEDxBelgrade events. The first one was in Saturday. There are two important points for us: (1) even local conferences could be very inspiring and (2) there is online documentation how to make them. As Wikimedia bureau

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread James Alexander
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 4:54 PM, James Alexander >wrote: > > > > > I agree, that is exactly what consensus is :) I just don't we want to > > pretend otherwise. > > > > James, you just made my cerebellum fuse. > > -- > ~Keegan > > http://

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 4:54 PM, James Alexander wrote: > > > I agree, that is exactly what consensus is :) I just don't we want to > pretend otherwise. James, you just made my cerebellum fuse. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/18 Casey Brown : > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm writing this as the follow-up to Jimmy Wales' Wikimania keynote >> about small Wikipedias, or, as some people correctly say, Wikipedias >> in underprivileged languages. (It's strange to use the

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistics on edit summary usage on Wikipedia and standard summaries buttons

2010-07-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/18 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > Amir E. Aharoni, 18/07/2010 13:50: >> I may have missed something, but standard edit summary buttons are >> also used in Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. I am curious to know the >> statistics about these two. > > ru.wiki is included: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread wiki-list
Prodego wrote: > Yes, that had been mentioned in Excirial's update though. In addition to > being for edit warring, they are also expected to be temporary. > Aye boss that'll learn them, a week in the hole it be. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundati

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread James Alexander
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > If you think about it, one could interpret consensus as pushing one groups > opinion on another. Doesn't make it wrong. > > -Dan > > > > I agree, that is exactly what consensus is :) I just don't we want to pretend otherwise. James Alexand

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Dan Rosenthal
If you think about it, one could interpret consensus as pushing one groups opinion on another. Doesn't make it wrong. -Dan On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:21 PM, James Alexander wrote: > The only thing I see coming out of this at the moment is > "proof" that we are indeed pushing our own opinion on the

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread James Alexander
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:35 PM, wrote: > > Prodego wrote: > >> As another update to this situation, all admins on acewiki have now been > >> desysoped, and the template removed. > >> > > > > Well done that will certainly show the natives wh

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Prodego
Yes, that had been mentioned in Excirial's update though. In addition to being for edit warring, they are also expected to be temporary. Prodego On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:35 PM, wrote: > > Prodego wrote: > >> As another update to this sit

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 3:35 PM, wrote: > Prodego wrote: >> As another update to this situation, all admins on acewiki have now been >> desysoped, and the template removed. >> > > Well done that will certainly show the natives who wears the boots. > Prodego forgot to mention that that was after

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Excirial
For those interested: There is currently a centralized discussion on meta regarding this issue: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/ace.wikipedia_and_Prophet_Muhammad_images I don't think that anyone has linked it here so far, but its its redundant i apologize for wasting people's

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread wiki-list
Prodego wrote: > As another update to this situation, all admins on acewiki have now been > desysoped, and the template removed. > Well done that will certainly show the natives who wears the boots. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Fred Bauder
> > You are arguing in the wrong place. A very large debate has already > taken place on this issue and consensus has been reached. Nothing you > can say on this mailing list will impact that. If you really think you > have something new to bring to the debate the correct place to raise > the matt

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Prodego
As another update to this situation, all admins on acewiki have now been desysoped, and the template removed. Prodego On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:41 PM, wrote: > Excirial wrote: > > *Do you not see the irony in requesting that someone stops using words, > > taken to be a personal attack, whilst

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread wiki-list
Excirial wrote: > *Do you not see the irony in requesting that someone stops using words, > taken to be a personal attack, whilst at the same time defending the > continued publication of images taken to be personal attacks on others > religious beliefs.* > > I see the irony that someone speaks ou

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > Hello, > > I'm writing this as the follow-up to Jimmy Wales' Wikimania keynote > about small Wikipedias, or, as some people correctly say, Wikipedias > in underprivileged languages. (It's strange to use the word "small" > anywhere near Beng

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Oliver Keyes
Will do. I did suggest Urdu as a "test run", but it didn't quite conform with our early requirements. I'm going to push for it again when we've worked out if this project can work. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Yann Forget wrote: > Hello, > > I am also very interested by this topic, mainly ab

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, I am also very interested by this topic, mainly about Hindi and Gujarati among other Indian languages. Please keep me in touch. Regards, Yann 2010/7/18 Oliver Keyes : > There's an en-wiki project I'm getting involved in that is planning > "outreach" to smaller wikis. Would you like me t

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistics on edit summary usage on Wikipedia and standard summaries buttons

2010-07-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 18/07/2010 13:50: > I may have missed something, but standard edit summary buttons are > also used in Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. I am curious to know the > statistics about these two. ru.wiki is included: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usage_of_edit_summary_on_Wikipedia (74.8

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Ting Chen
User:Mimihitam made an introduction on Wikimania about the Acenese Wikipedia ( http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Wikis_of_the_World ). I remember he said that he doesn't speak Acenese, but the Indonesian Wikipedia has an intensive contact with the Acenese Wikipedia, so I think i

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Oliver Keyes
It's currently at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:IShadowed/Outreach; we only started work on putting it together a couple of days ago. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Do you have an URL for this project ? > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 18 July 2010 15:45, Oliv

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Shiju Alex
Hi Amir, As you might know Malayalam is not a big language. It has roughly 30 million speakers. There are some efforts from Malayalam Wikipedia community to reach to public. Here are some 1. Our wikipedia CD - read the story here - http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/creating-malayalam-wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/18 Oliver Keyes : > There's an en-wiki project I'm getting involved in that is planning > "outreach" to smaller wikis. Would you like me to give you a ping when we > launch? Yes, certainly. Thank you. -- אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי Amir Elisha Aharoni http://aharoni.wordpress.com "We're

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Do you have an URL for this project ? Thanks, GerardM On 18 July 2010 15:45, Oliver Keyes wrote: > There's an en-wiki project I'm getting involved in that is planning > "outreach" to smaller wikis. Would you like me to give you a ping when we > launch? > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:4

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Oliver Keyes
There's an en-wiki project I'm getting involved in that is planning "outreach" to smaller wikis. Would you like me to give you a ping when we launch? On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > 2010/7/18 Gerard Meijssen : > > Amir, we talked about is

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread geni
On 18 July 2010 10:10, wrote: > Excirial wrote: >>  *And how do we assume good faith when images known to cause offense are >> being defended, especially when its not as if they can't be found on any one >> of a 1000 websites. Reposting them serves no value other than give the >> poster and its d

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Excirial
Just another general update/comment. It seems that the template is back once again at the ace.wiki mainpage, after another removal by a steward earlier. This time it is accompanied by a "Wheel-warring" notice, with a request that removal of the template is discussed prior to doing so. The reason f

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistics on edit summary usage on Wikipedia andstandard summaries buttons

2010-07-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Przykuta, 18/07/2010 13:38: > Huh. Try edit any article in pl wiki as IP without edit summary ;) This > question (ask for summaries) is introduced to pl wiki from cs wiki. Script > (red border) has written by Nux (probably). Thank you. When was this feature introduced? Ortega's statistics http:

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistics on edit summary usage on Wikipedia and standard summaries buttons

2010-07-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/18 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > [[User:Mauro742]] has produced some statistics: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usage_of_edit_summary_on_Wikipedia > There are great differences among Wikipedias. > Apparently, sk.wiki and pl.wiki are the only Wikipedias where standard > edit summaries buttons ar

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/7/18 Gerard Meijssen : > Amir, we talked about issues with right to left languages at Wikimania in > Gdansk, that is another can of wurms where we need people to pick up the > slack. At translatewiki.net we are looking for developers who are able and > willing to help solve technical issues th

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistics on edit summary usage on Wiki pedia andstandard summaries buttons

2010-07-18 Thread Przykuta
> [[User:Mauro742]] has produced some statistics: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usage_of_edit_summary_on_Wikipedia > There are great differences among Wikipedias. > Apparently, sk.wiki and pl.wiki are the only Wikipedias where standard > edit summaries buttons are used, and where edit summary

[Foundation-l] Statistics on edit summary usage on Wikipedia and standard summaries buttons

2010-07-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
[[User:Mauro742]] has produced some statistics: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usage_of_edit_summary_on_Wikipedia There are great differences among Wikipedias. Apparently, sk.wiki and pl.wiki are the only Wikipedias where standard edit summaries buttons are used, and where edit summary usage is a

Re: [Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have blogged often about this subject. If you want to create a level playing field for languages (the topic of my presentation at Wikimania) you have to make sure that there is a level playing field. While MediaWiki supports many languages there are issues that we have not addressed. Many o

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread Excirial
*Do you not see the irony in requesting that someone stops using words, taken to be a personal attack, whilst at the same time defending the continued publication of images taken to be personal attacks on others religious beliefs.* I see the irony that someone speaks out against personal attacks,

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread wiki-list
Excirial wrote: > *And how do we assume good faith when images known to cause offense are > being defended, especially when its not as if they can't be found on any one > of a 1000 websites. Reposting them serves no value other than give the > poster and its defenders a warm fuzzy "we're don't cen

[Foundation-l] small Wikipedia projects - follow-up to Jimmy Wales' talk

2010-07-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello, I'm writing this as the follow-up to Jimmy Wales' Wikimania keynote about small Wikipedias, or, as some people correctly say, Wikipedias in underprivileged languages. (It's strange to use the word "small" anywhere near Bengali, for example.) Is there some recorded body of knowledge about t

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

2010-07-18 Thread wiki-list
Mark Williamson wrote: > "You" - again, this is not (or at least it should not) be about ME and > YOU. I did not upload any of those images, I did not vote for (or > against - I didn't know the vote was taking place) the deletion of the > Goatse image, I'm merely stating the reason it was deleted.