Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign

2010-06-27 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi, The billboards look pretty cool! -- Huib "Abigor" Laurens Tech team www.wikiweet.nl - www.llamadawiki.nl - www.forgotten-beauty.com - www.huiblaurens.nl - www.wikiweet.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign

2010-06-27 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Now we have Jimmy's and Stallman's billboards all over Belgrade. I'll > send photos ASAP. For now, there are their images at > http://likilik.org/ > http://likilink.org/ ___ foundation-l mailing l

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread James Alexander
It has been said already in different ways but since it appears not to be being followed. As much as i may disagree with some of what he said and the way he said it talking about Ottava on this list at the moment has become at best off-topic. Continuing to talk about our concerns and problems abo

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Now if we were to get into a pissing contest over the top organizers of Wikiversity, I would say the persons most likely to be considered founders would be John Schmidt, Cormac Lawler, and Robert Horning. Ottava does have a point that he is one of the most senior active custodians, since not tha

Re: [Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"

2010-06-27 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:04:19PM +0100, David Gerard wrote: > > > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/ascap-assails-free-culture-digital-rights-groups/ > > > > They're actually gathering money to fight free content. > > > > We may need

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On 06/28/2010 01:00 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > I make my changes, and move on, and never look back. Thus, I never weep > over the massacre made on my beautiful workmanship. Weeping does not turn > into gnashing of teeth, and does not proceed into daggers of vengeance, then > to the remorse

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 6/27/2010 12:45:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, thomas.dal...@gmail.com writes: On 27 June 2010 20:42, William Pietri wrote: > Given that this is recurring drama-creating behavior, perhaps we can > move on to the "ignore" stage of WP:RBI. On enwiki, we did that ages ago.

Re: [Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"

2010-06-27 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:04:19PM +0100, David Gerard wrote: > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/ascap-assails-free-culture-digital-rights-groups/ > > They're actually gathering money to fight free content. > > We may need to do something about this. I'd love to know what they're thinkin

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 27 June 2010 21:30, Dennis During wrote: > I would have thought almost any copying (such as what the software routinely > does on, say, this very e-mail) would be at worst "fair use". You've copied the email as a by-product of replying to it to provide context. I think that is very clearly fai

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Dennis During
I would have thought almost any copying (such as what the software routinely does on, say, this very e-mail) would be at worst "fair use". COPYVIO follows On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 June 2010 15:29, Aphaia wrote: > > In a certain jurisdiction, only c

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread William Pietri
On 06/27/2010 12:45 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 June 2010 20:42, William Pietri wrote: > >> > Given that this is recurring drama-creating behavior, perhaps we can >> > move on to the "ignore" stage of WP:RBI. >> > On enwiki, we did that ages ago. I don't believe he is blocked on >

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 27 June 2010 20:42, William Pietri wrote: > Given that this is recurring drama-creating behavior, perhaps we can > move on to the "ignore" stage of WP:RBI. On enwiki, we did that ages ago. I don't believe he is blocked on Wikiversity (yet). ___ foun

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread William Pietri
On 06/27/2010 12:10 PM, quiddity wrote: >> According to Ottava, he is in charge of Wikiversity - sort of its >> equivalent of Jimmy. He says the position was created through all of >> his hard work and dedication. >> > Huh? How so? > http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Ottav

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread quiddity
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nathan wrote: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> On 26 June 2010 14:44, Andre Engels wrote: >>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jeffrey Peters >>> <17pet...@cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote: Austin, Maybe you didn't realize

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 26 June 2010 14:44, Andre Engels wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jeffrey Peters >> <17pet...@cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote: >>> Austin, >>> >>> Maybe you didn't realize but I am the top organizer of Wikiversity. > > Wikiversity h

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > I don't know why you bothered putting him on moderation if you were > just going to forward all of his emails to the list. Please, keep the > discussion off this list, in order to prevent the disruption which you > sought to limit by placin

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 27 June 2010 15:29, Aphaia wrote: > In a certain jurisdiction, only creative expression can be under > protection of laws. I have no comment, since I don't follow the whole > discussion, if it is related to the mail in question. Sure, but I think "creative expression" is usually interpreted ve

[Foundation-l] Gathering for chapters and potential chapters at Wikimania

2010-06-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
It has been proposed that people from chapters and people wanting to form chapters get together at Wikimania in order to share experiences and offer each other advice. I am trying to organise such a gathering. I'm currently proposing an informal gathering during the Saturday morning coffee break. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Aphaia
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 June 2010 13:55, Dennis During wrote: >> Are you saying that one can't disclose correspondence to any third-party >> without consent of both parties?  In what jurisdictions? > > The law is a little out-of-date. When someone sends you a

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

2010-06-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, It seems to me doubtless that there is a substantial number of active Wikimedians who see the need in a simple or children-encyclopedia and would like to invest some of their own sweat, blood and tears. Others, who disagree, may stand on the side line and comment if they like. There are a

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-27 Thread Milos Rancic
Probably related: http://www.womensenews.org/story/women-in-science/100623/it-jobs-offer-growth-women-are-bailing-out ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:29:28AM +0200, Peter Gervai wrote: > Good contributors shouldn't be driven > away even if they became obssessed or believe they're gods. Maybe he > needs a vacation (a longer one), not a kickban. > Vacation is fine. > Good contributors have earned the "right" to spend

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 27 June 2010 13:55, Dennis During wrote: > Are you saying that one can't disclose correspondence to any third-party > without consent of both parties?  In what jurisdictions? The law is a little out-of-date. When someone sends you a physical letter you can give that letter to anyone you like,

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

2010-06-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 26 June 2010 14:44, Andre Engels wrote: > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jeffrey Peters > <17pet...@cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote: >> Austin, >> >> Maybe you didn't realize but I am the top organizer of Wikiversity. Wikiversity has a "top organizer"? What does that mean? _

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Dennis During
Are you saying that one can't disclose correspondence to any third-party without consent of both parties? In what jurisdictions? On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:53 AM, K. Peachey wrote: > He is also a "bit" miffed about you forwarding the message to the > list, as you are probably aware, emails are s

[Foundation-l] Please help review [[Commons:Sexual content]]

2010-06-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
As many of you are aware, Commons has been developing a proposed policy regarding sexual content at [[Commons:Sexual content]].[1] It is now stable and ready for review by third parties - if you haven't read it yet, please look it over and provide any feedback on the talk page. We want to move f

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread K. Peachey
He is also a "bit" miffed about you forwarding the message to the list, as you are probably aware, emails are still copyrighted. -Peachey ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Andrew Garrett
I don't know why you bothered putting him on moderation if you were just going to forward all of his emails to the list. Please, keep the discussion off this list, in order to prevent the disruption which you sought to limit by placing Jeffrey on moderation. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ __

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

2010-06-27 Thread Peter Gervai
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 01:51, Kim Bruning wrote: > Hmm, we had a similar issue with ru.wikibooks at one point, where some people > thought they were "in charge", and had to be removed. Apart from Jeffrey acting really quite weird I believe there should be at least a round of trying to convince

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

2010-06-27 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Milos, reading your mail below I am wondering why your reaction on my first mail was so aggressive. It looks to me as if your consideration is not that far away from mine. Especially I wrote in my suggestion that first of all the project must have a very clearly defined scope and audiance