Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Q&A regarding board resolution

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Snow
Replying for the purpose of forwarding the original message, part two. --Michael Snow On 6/23/2010 10:59 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > What is the purpose of the resolution? > > The Board is asking its Executive Director to conduct a study, with the > goal of figuring out what to do about potentially

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board resolution commissioning study and recommendations

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Snow
It seems like we have yet to figure out if we can get the announcements list to automatically copy messages here. But since the "reply-to" function is at least set properly for this list, I'll take advantage of it now to make sure the full original message is posted here as well. --Michael Snow

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-23 Thread K. Peachey
Listing some? they did not get delivered at all. -Peachey ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-23 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 08:37:37 Milos Rancic написа: >> I don't think that it is particularly interesting to see someone's >> edits. If you are not a passionate Wikimedian, of course. > > If your friends are so disinterested in Wikiped

[Foundation-l] Wikisource and reCAPTCHA

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Peel
(Renaming the subject as we've changed topic) On 23 Jun 2010, at 21:31, Mariano Cecowski wrote: > --- El mié 23-jun-10, Michael Peel escribió: > >> I always think than not using reCaptcha is a shame, as it's >> a nice way to get people to proofread text in a reasonably >> efficient way. It woul

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Mariano Cecowski
--- El mié 23-jun-10, Michael Peel escribió: > I always think than not using reCaptcha is a shame, as it's > a nice way to get people to proofread text in a reasonably > efficient way. It would be really nice if someone could > create something similar that proofreads OCR'd text from > Wikisour

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Nikola Smolenski
> On 23 Jun 2010, at 16:23, David Gerard wrote: > > Reliance on Google for what is really an essential function for those > > who aren't native English speakers is problematic because it's (a) > > third-party (b) closed. Same reason we don't use reCaptcha. On the other hand, do we have to really _

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Peel
On 23 Jun 2010, at 16:23, David Gerard wrote: > Reliance on Google for what is really an essential function for those > who aren't native English speakers is problematic because it's (a) > third-party (b) closed. Same reason we don't use reCaptcha. I always think than not using reCaptcha is a sh

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Wednesday 23 June 2010 16:34:26 Magnus Manske написа: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Tisza Gergo wrote: > > Again, I would suggest using Google (or an alternative with open data, if > > one exists) instead of trying to reinvent the wheel: > > > > http://translate.google.com/#auto|en|Pferd

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Wednesday 23 June 2010 10:13:39 Magnus Manske написа: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > On 06/22/2010 08:07 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > >> Here's a thought: Enter "hobu" into translate.google.com, leave > >> "source language" on automatic and target on "English", a

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-23 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 08:37:37 Milos Rancic написа: > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 07:37:18 Milos Rancic написа: > >> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > >> > Or perhaps we don't even have to build one, but ju

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-23 Thread David Gerard
On 19 June 2010 19:00, MZMcBride wrote: > Ryan Lomonaco wrote: >> A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for >> the past five days or so. > Google is evil. Your message ended up in my Gmail spam ;-p - d. ___ foundat

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread David Gerard
On 23 June 2010 15:34, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Tisza Gergo wrote: >> Magnus Manske writes: >>> Basically, this will (on the search page only!) look at the last query >>> run (the one currently in the edit box), check several language >> Again, I would suggest us

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-23 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Aphaia wrote: > One thing we can do would be to make contributors' names more visible. > Translators for WMF stuff too (Ting Chen made a good point about the > latter in Alexandria). Many websites gives clear credits to > contributors - not only for-profit media, b

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread John Doe
Like I said before, If I can get some template support on commons, Ive got a translation tool that uses one of googles APIs for translating. I just need some assistance with figuring out how to best integrate it into commons. But I do have a on demand mass translation tool. John On Wed, Jun 23, 2

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Tisza Gergo wrote: > Magnus Manske writes: > >> Basically, this will (on the search page only!) look at the last query >> run (the one currently in the edit box), check several language >> editions of Wikipedia for articles from the individual words (in this >> ca

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Tisza Gergo
Magnus Manske writes: > Basically, this will (on the search page only!) look at the last query > run (the one currently in the edit box), check several language > editions of Wikipedia for articles from the individual words (in this > case, "Pferd" and "Schach"), count how many exist, pick the la

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Tisza Gergo wrote: > Samuel Klein writes: > >> I'd like to see such translation tools used to enhance the tags used >> to identify an image, so that all internet searches can find images by >> those tags. > > I think this stuff should be left for Google. A clever

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-23 Thread Aphaia
One thing we can do would be to make contributors' names more visible. Translators for WMF stuff too (Ting Chen made a good point about the latter in Alexandria). Many websites gives clear credits to contributors - not only for-profit media, but websites whose content is mainly written by volunteer

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Tisza Gergo
Samuel Klein writes: > I'd like to see such translation tools used to enhance the tags used > to identify an image, so that all internet searches can find images by > those tags. I think this stuff should be left for Google. A clever search engine should be able to figure out that if you are loo

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Oh, I misread that. Disregard. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen < > cimonav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Lion in a more amusing coinage was to Michael "a noble deer" >> ("jalopeura"), going with the color of the pelt

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > On 06/22/2010 08:07 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: I would consider this state as a poor reflection on Commons' accessibility. >>> Especially as Google image search (imho, the likeliest avenue of searching >>> for images) gives 130 000 pict

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > > Lion in a more amusing coinage was to Michael "a noble deer" > ("jalopeura"), going with the color of the pelt despite the fact > that lions are hardly ruminants. > > > Yours, > > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen Not to mention the cats not

Re: [Foundation-l] English language dominationism is striking again

2010-06-23 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Mark Williamson wrote: > In addition, I have a feeling that article overstates the English > abilities of the average non-native internet user. Yes, lots of people > have a very (very!) basic command of English, but that is not the same > as functional bilingualism. A user may happen to know the na