Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-11 Thread Mark Williamson
Shiju, just FYI, tool kit can be used by anyone for translation. In fact, it's good to use because (if you choose the option) it will go toward improving future machine translation capability for your language, thus expanding possibilities for monolingual speakers of your language. In addition, "ma

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-11 Thread Shiju Alex
This topic came up while we were discussing about Google's translation effort. Google/Google employees are using Google tool kit to translate English Wikipedia articles to many of the Indic language Wikipedias. We are definitely more interested if Google translates these user required articles th

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-11 Thread Mark Williamson
+1. This would be a SUPER useful tool for all Wikis. -m. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Shiju Alex wrote: > Recently I had a discussion with one of my fellow Malayalam wikipedian ( > http://ml.wikipedia.org) about the creation of new articles in small > wikipedias like ours. He is one the few u

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-11 Thread Chad
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:25 PM, wrote: > Chad, I'm hesitant to reply to your note, because I feel like "defending the > staff against the community" is a bad role for me: it tends to polarize and > divide, rather than helping us all work together well.  And I think I do, for > the most part,

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-11 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > Chad wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Michael Snow wrote: >> >>> ...if for example I was qualified to review a >>> staff member's patch (which I'm not), I might want to think twice about >>> what audience gets that feedback. >>> >>>

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-11 Thread Excirial
Such a tool should, from my inexpert view, not be to difficult to implement as most of the required information is already publicly available trough Squid logs. For example, http://stats.grok.se is a tool which shows the amount of page requests that were made for a specific page (Currently used for

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-11 Thread Sage Ross
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Shiju Alex wrote: [snip] > Some feature is required in the MediaWiki software that enable us to see a > list of keywords used most frequently by the users to search for non-exist > articles. If we get such a list then some users like him can concentrate on > crea

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-11 Thread susanpgardner
Chad, I'm hesitant to reply to your note, because I feel like "defending the staff against the community" is a bad role for me: it tends to polarize and divide, rather than helping us all work together well. And I think I do, for the most part, agree with you. (As someone pointed out here the

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-11 Thread Michael Snow
Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > >> The replies to my comment are missing the point. Sure, the developers >> themselves need to be able to handle public criticism of their work, >> just like wiki editors. But I was responding to Austin's comment in >

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-11 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > The replies to my comment are missing the point. Sure, the developers > themselves need to be able to handle public criticism of their work, > just like wiki editors. But I was responding to Austin's comment in > particular about board member

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-11 Thread Michael Snow
Chad wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > >> ...if for example I was qualified to review a >> staff member's patch (which I'm not), I might want to think twice about >> what audience gets that feedback. >> >> --Michael Snow >> > Why? If they're contributing a pat

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-11 Thread Chad
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > ...if for example I was qualified to review a > staff member's patch (which I'm not), I might want to think twice about > what audience gets that feedback. > > --Michael Snow > Why? If they're contributing a patch to MediaWiki, they should go

[Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-11 Thread Shiju Alex
Recently I had a discussion with one of my fellow Malayalam wikipedian ( http://ml.wikipedia.org) about the creation of new articles in small wikipedias like ours. He is one the few users who is keen on creating new articles *based on the requirement of our readers*. (Of course we have many people

Re: [Foundation-l] Cultural awareness and sensitivity

2010-06-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
>> reaction to what to me was actually a rather funny comment. However, >> Mariano's following reaction as well as Yaroslav's came across to me >> as unecessarily aggressive and actually shocked me in what I perceived >> as a lack of consideration and altogether rather nasty answers. >> Strange. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-11 Thread John Vandenberg
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > ... if for example I was qualified to review a > staff member's patch (which I'm not), I might want to think twice about > what audience gets that feedback. Ugh. You are implicitly expecting that the patch submitter and the code reviewer are

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector improves the visibility of interwikis, reader said

2010-06-11 Thread Platonides
Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > «You're marvellous. I've particularly appreciated the languages menu and > I think that in the future it will be even more important (Indian, > Chinese etc.).» > Funny feedback from a reader here: > http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Progetto:Coordinamento/Us