Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Michael Snow wrote: > On 6/9/2010 12:12 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > >> Michael Snow wrote: >> >> >>> There have been a lot of red herrings brought up on all sides of that >>> issue. Use of images in a context that is on-topic and educational is >>> clearly one of those, although

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: change of registered TMs in Persian wikipedia

The best option according to us (Malayalam Wikipedians - http://ml.wikipedia.org) is to use the second option for the article titles . That is, transliterate the keyword to your language. There is no copyright issue attached with that, I suppose. We do that throughout our daily life. For example,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: change of registered TMs in Persian wikipedia

I think the immediate question would be this: Ignoring the question of trademark infringement for the moment, what way would the Persian Wikipedia WANT to do it? Is there a standard that is used for non-trademarked things when there is no Persian word in existence to describe the title? For exam

[Foundation-l] Fwd: change of registered TMs in Persian wikipedia

Forwarded on behalf of a non-list-member. The question pertains to translation of trademarks within articles; to my knowledge, there's nothing wrong with us doing so, and I think this is done in many Wikipedias. But I'll defer to the list on this question. -- Forwarded message --

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF investment strategy

Yeah, I hear you, John. I wouldn't characterize it myself as a systemic problem, but I think I get the gist of what you're saying. I have my own opinions, but I don't think I'll post them here (at least, not tonight, and not while walking down the street). They'd be easier to talk through in a

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:08 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Rob Lanphier wrote: > > So, I'll start chipping in my work at the page Erik has started: > > http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Product_Development_Process_Ideas > > You all really just don't get it, do you? Part of the problem is that the > usa

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

Rob Lanphier wrote: > So, I'll start chipping in my work at the page Erik has started: > http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Product_Development_Process_Ideas You all really just don't get it, do you? Part of the problem is that the usability wiki is viewed as a walled garden. Your "solution" is t

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF investment strategy

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:49 AM, wrote: > Hi John, > > Yes, the 2010-11 plan is rooted in the strategy.  We're wrapping it up in the > office today -- it goes to the Board tonight, and, post-approval, will be > published within a few weeks. Maybe I can do IRC office hours once it's > publishe

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF investment strategy

On 10 June 2010 01:49, wrote: > Hi John, > > Yes, the 2010-11 plan is rooted in the strategy.  We're wrapping it up in the > office today -- it goes to the Board tonight, and, post-approval, will be > published within a few weeks. Maybe I can do IRC office hours once it's > published -- it'd b

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF investment strategy

Hi John, Yes, the 2010-11 plan is rooted in the strategy. We're wrapping it up in the office today -- it goes to the Board tonight, and, post-approval, will be published within a few weeks. Maybe I can do IRC office hours once it's published -- it'd be a good meaty topic :-) Thanks, Sue

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Aryeh Gregor > wrote: > It's not specific to Wikimedia, it's practically universal in > open-source development. To get it to happen, you need pushing from > the top: formally stating it as part of people's job duties (so they > don't feel they have to do "real wo

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

phoebe ayers wrote: > > I adore the word "pellucid." But Gerard is right: simply put we can't > and don't do everything. We don't make every piece of information > available to every single person in the world -- yet. I do admit that many actors in the wikimedia universe have been forced to retrea

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Friday, June 11, featuring Mike Godwin

Thanks Thomas. I'm happy to do office hours -- Cary can schedule me in any time I'm free, via James. (I can probably do it pre-Wikimania, I think.) -Original Message- From: Thomas Dalton Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:26:31 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l]

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Friday, June 11, featuring Mike Godwin

On 10 June 2010 01:13, Cary Bass wrote: > Hey everyone! > > On Friday, June 11, the Office Hour will once again be hosted by Mike > Godwin, Legal counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation, who you can read > about at As interesting as Mike is, this

[Foundation-l] WMF investment strategy

subject was: Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The WMF has as its strategy to invest in what has the highest impact. Where is this stated? Who decides what has the highest impact? >From

[Foundation-l] Office Hour for Friday, June 11, featuring Mike Godwin

Hey everyone! On Friday, June 11, the Office Hour will once again be hosted by Mike Godwin, Legal counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation, who you can read about at Office hours are from 2230 to 2330 UTC (3:30 PM to 4:30 PM PST). If you do not h

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Gerard Meijssen wrote: >> Hoi, >> The WMF has as its strategy to invest in what has the highest impact. Given >> limited resources that makes sense. It also means that while philosophically >> as volunteers we do not have to make such

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

Congratulations to the team, well chosen. Let me know if I can be any assistance by email or on-wiki. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

IBMs decision to get rid of all internal communication sounds to me as a very good practice for us. It also fits in well with the wikipedia culture of consensus in decision making. Following this comm. strategy involves the large volunteer community, and taps on the vast knowledge of our community

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > It's not specific to Wikimedia, it's practically universal in > open-source development.  To get it to happen, you need pushing from > the top: formally stating it as part of people's job duties (so they > don't feel they have to do "real work"

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

I think the idea that Aryeh Gregor brought up is incredible. We should follow the strategy use by IBM in helping develop Linux. Open all discussion to the Wikimedia community will bring the power of Wikipedia's collaborative process to the operations of of Wikimedia. Volunteers would get involve

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Daniel Phelps wrote: > The Wikimedia Foundation has hired four new staff members to guide the new > Public Policy Initiative. Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Sage Ross, and Amy Roth > will work with public policy programs at universities across the United > States to inco

Re: [Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

Me too -- I'll look forward to seeing you. And congratulations again to Wikimedia Serbia -- we'll do whatever we can to support your work :-) -Original Message- From: Juliana da Costa José Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 20:53:00 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l]

Re: [Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

Then yes, I met her when I was in Berlin for the math Academy. Thanks :-) -Original Message- From: Sebastian Moleski Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:47:35 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

Re: [Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

Hello Sue, hello Filip and Milos, yes I am the woman you met in Berlin and I am positivly surprised that you remembering this short hello after this long goodbye ;). I am very proud to be part of Wikimedia Serbia and will do my best to support this Chapter with my engagement and my ideas. I hope w

Re: [Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

On Jun 9, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > > Congratulations Juliana, and Wikimedia Serbia! > > Is Juliana the woman I met in Berlin a few years ago, who was then a > board member of Wikimedia Deutschland? (I guess I don't actually > expect anyone to know if I met her in Berlin, but maybe

Re: [Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

On 9 June 2010 10:33, Filip Maljkovic wrote: > It is my pleasure to introduce our new member and Chief of Office of > Wikimedia Serbia, Juliana Da Costa José. Congratulations Juliana, and Wikimedia Serbia! Is Juliana the woman I met in Berlin a few years ago, who was then a board member of Wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

James Alexander james.alexan...@rochester.edu jameso...@gmail.com On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Daniel Phelps wrote: > The Wikimedia Foundation has hired four new staff members to guide the new > Public Policy Initiative. Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Sage Ross, and Amy Roth > will work with publi

Re: [Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Filip Maljkovic wrote: > It is important to note that she became the Chief of Office without > salary and that her move to Belgrade depends on successful fundraising. Just to clarify: with salary, not without it. ___ fou

[Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

The Wikimedia Foundation has hired four new staff members to guide the new Public Policy Initiative. Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Sage Ross, and Amy Roth will work with public policy programs at universities across the United States to incorporate improvements to Wikipedia articles into the professo

[Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

It is my pleasure to introduce our new member and Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia, Juliana Da Costa José. Juliana is one of the organizers of Wikimania in Gdansk. She lives in Berlin, and if things go according to plan, she will move to Belgrade. She doesn't know Serbian (although she knows

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2010 12:01, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > You are as always, as pellucid as a brick of coal, and totally > off topic to boot. Please feel welcome to not post comments > like that again. The fact that you don't understand, don't agree with, o

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Hoi, Using words like "pellucid" I am afraid that the average Brit or Yank will have to look up what you are trying to say, let alone most people for whom English is a second or third language. If you are not able / willing to understand what my message to you was, I am happy to clear things up fo

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On 6/9/2010 12:12 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Michael Snow wrote: > >> There have been a lot of red herrings brought up on all sides of that >> issue. Use of images in a context that is on-topic and educational is >> clearly one of those, although I would suggest that we can do better at

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The WMF has as its strategy to invest in what has the highest impact. Given > limited resources that makes sense. It also means that while philosophically > as volunteers we do not have to make such choices, the WMF will and does. > > It is obvious that depending on

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > 2) Make sure that every paid developer spends time dealing with the > community.  This can include giving support to end users, discussing > things with volunteers, reviewing patches, etc.  They should be doing > this on paid time, and they sh

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2010 03:28, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > I recall reading that IBM improved its > participation in the Linux kernel community by getting rid of all > internal communications among its kernel developers, meaning they had > to use the public project l

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Hoi, The WMF has as its strategy to invest in what has the highest impact. Given limited resources that makes sense. It also means that while philosophically as volunteers we do not have to make such choices, the WMF will and does. It is obvious that depending on your point of view, the choices ma

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

Michael Snow wrote: > There have been a lot of red herrings brought up on all sides of that > issue. Use of images in a context that is on-topic and educational is > clearly one of those, although I would suggest that we can do better at > supporting reader choice, because it's really the reader

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: One-sentence explanation of pending changes

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> >> This is what I have so far, off the top of my head: >> >> "Some of our pages are locked from *anyone* editing them. With this, >> we can open those up so people can edit the draft version, which then >> goes live. Should be on the order of m